Niclas Tornblom Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Hi, Im shooting a fantasy/ comedy in a few weeks on super 16. And it's supose to look like a dream. I'm talkin about, foggy mornings, soft images without not to many bright colors. slow talking images etc. I think ill go for some kind of fog filters or black pro mist, to create the illusion of fog. we are shooting very early in the morning, near a lake, so im asking how to create this dream like images and what filter etc. to use. any suggestions? should i stick with my fog filters or any other ideas? Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted June 22, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted June 22, 2010 Fog and Double-Fog are better for a foggy look than Black ProMist (regular ProMist would be better than Black for fogginess). The Tiffen Smoque filter is also good but needs something bright in the frame to react to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niclas Tornblom Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Fog and Double-Fog are better for a foggy look than Black ProMist (regular ProMist would be better than Black for fogginess). The Tiffen Smoque filter is also good but needs something bright in the frame to react to. Thank you David. Does the fogfilter/ dubbel fog filter, requires any particular lightning? My goal is to use only natural light as much as possible. What's the difference between Promist and Fog? Thanks, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted June 22, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thank you David. Does the fogfilter/ dubbel fog filter, requires any particular lightning? My goal is to use only natural light as much as possible. What's the difference between Promist and Fog? Thanks, Nick. All these filters are light-scatterers -- mist particles in the glass cause light areas to spread, halate. They mainly vary in the degree of milkiness that cause, and the degree of softening, and some color cast issues (fog filters tend to cause a glow to be blue-ish compared to a ProMist). Fogs and Double-Fogs (which are just a Fog plus a Low Con, they are actually less foggy than Fogs, depending on the strength, but conversely are milkier) are older filter designs (1970's and earlier), ProMists date back to the 1980's. ProMists have a softening quality, not just the hazy foggy look. The strength of the filter makes a big difference in effect when comparing them. For a foggy look, I'd stick to Fogs, Double-Fogs, or Smoque filters. No, they don't need lighting but you'll see the effect better around points of light, bright areas, etc. anything that can halate (glow). Filters are not dimensional like real smoke/fog though where you can have a foggy background but a clear, sharp foreground because close objects are being seen through less fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted June 22, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted June 22, 2010 Some shots from "Tess", which used a Fog filter: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niclas Tornblom Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thank you! Looking forward to do some test! best Niclas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niclas Tornblom Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 So we are shooting on the SR 3 advanced, but i cant decide what optik to use. I was thinking of using zeiss zoom 11-110 to get a softer feelin instead of using the primes. But it seems that the zoom lens is on service during our time of shooting. so i have to choose what primes to go with... if i wanna go for a softer feelin', and less saturation in colors...witch on to choose? any suggestions zeiss ultra zeiss high speed cooke sk4 (would be to expensive i guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted June 24, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted June 24, 2010 I find the cooke lenses slightly less, I dunno, "clinical" feeling compared to the Zeiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adam Frisch FSF Posted November 28, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted November 28, 2017 Sorry to dredge, but David - are the Double Fog's combination of Fog and Low Con? I'm rekindling my interest filtering after a decade of naturalism and sharp and realistic imagery. I've been using GlimmerGlass on a few projects, but really want to move towards light Fog filtering. Saw some nice tests shot with Double Fog recently and it made me excited again. HAs anyone got any recent projects using light Double Fog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted November 28, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted November 28, 2017 Yes, Double Fogs are a blend of Low Cons and Fogs. "Good Girls Revolt" started using them after the pilot but I took a look and found it hard to tell it was being used. Kaminski used them for a foggy morning battlefield scene late in "War Horse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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