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What's wrong with this Canon 1014 XLS?


Samuel Berger

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I was looking at this one Canon 1014 XLS and the seller said "it doesn't run when I click the shutter I hear single clicks not a smooth motor running at the three different speeds of 9/ 18/ and 24 frames per second. All the other functions work". What do you guys suppose is wrong with this camera? Does it sound like a simple fix?

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Hi!

This could be anything from a broken motor to damaged gears/belts/electronics to a camera not getting enough power (=problem in battery compartment or corroded cables) to a camera somehow being stuck in single frame mode to a seller having forgotten how to turn off the single frame mode.

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The Canon 1014XL-S was my main camera years ago and I used it a lot. From memory you had to turn the speed dial to '1' to get single frames (but it was a long time ago and I could be wrong) ... but it's not sounding good in my opinion. Because the speed dial also had the option for 18 or 24 fps. So if it's shooting single frames when set to 18 or 24 something is seriously awry inside I'd say. I'd be inclined to steer clear of it unless it's going super cheap.

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Last I heard, Dom Jaeger in Australia doesn't do Super 8 camera repair either. Possibly he will work on Beaulieus but don't quote me on that, I could be wrong. I can understand repairers steering clear of Super 8 cameras. They are incredibly complex, small and fiddly inside. Not worth the headache.

Get one that works, pay extra for it, and hope it keeps working is my advice. Get two or three if you can. Then you've got a backup. Some low cost Super 8 cameras make great emergency backup cameras.

I always ask the seller is there corrosion in the battery compartment, even slight? Does the drive wheel at the rear centre of the film compartment turn when the camera runs?

For more knowledgeable sellers I will even ask if the iris stops down -- E.g. can they see the aperture closing down when looking into the lens or film gate? I've bought two good, low cost Super 8 cameras on Ebay this way. A Canon Autozoom 814 and a Canon 310 XL (this little one doesn't do 24 fps though).

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When it comes with bag, lens cap, manuals and other accessories, you might want to invest 10 bucks. (So that you can later get yourself a working camera that is lacking these parts. 😉 )

Unless the camera is set to some „special mode“ (fade in/out, activated self-/interval-timer, …), I assume that any fix would need spare parts that you don’t have. 

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As the number of repair companies (with skilled employees and enough spare parts) is dwindling, I would assume that it would cost at least 200 bucks (US$ or €) to get it fixed plus 100 bucks to get it shipped to the repair shop and back. When the needed spare parts have to be taken from a „donor camera“, then you’ll easily end up with total costs of 500 bucks and more. Not sure about the prices for a working 1014xls, but its smaller sibling is 350€ with warranty:

https://clickundsurr.de/products/canon-814-xl-s-2

And most likely working cameras are easily available for 350-450€:

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/canon-1014-xl-s-super-8-filmkamera/2874311670-245-15243

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/canon-1014xl-s-super8-filmkamera-neuwertig/2866580968-245-8981

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1 hour ago, Joerg Polzfusz said:

As the number of repair companies (with skilled employees and enough spare parts) is dwindling, I would assume that it would cost at least 200 bucks (US$ or €) to get it fixed plus 100 bucks to get it shipped to the repair shop and back.

That estimate is sadly far too little. 

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