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Elmo Super 110 filter key


Samuel Berger

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I took the Elmo Super 110 with me today to Six Flags. I had a roll of 50D and one of 200T.

I hadn't used it in many years. This may sound a bit odd, but, I totally forgot when to use the filter key. If I remember correctly, the only time I need to put it on the front slot is when using Tungsten film indoors. It ocurred to me now that maybe I was supposed to have placed it in the forward position with the 50D.

 

Luckily I can grade it in post if it's wrong. But what is the right way? @Mark Dunn

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I think all Super-8 cameras had a filter button below the gate operated by the cartridge. Assuming 50D is in a cartridge which is correctly without a filter notch, the button will be pushed in and the filter removed. But as you say the manual isn't explicit about it.

You can easily check for the button. It's about 1cm. above the base of the film compartment.

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Hi!

All variants of the Elmo Super 103-110 cameras have the lower pin to detect the cartridges’ tungsten/daylight notch. And by design, they stick to the standard of automatically removing the filter for all correctly notched non-tungsten-films. Whether this is still working on your camera (50+ years old), can be checked by watching the exposure needle when manually disabling the filter when having a 50D or TriX loaded.

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6 minutes ago, Mark Dunn said:

I think all Super-8 cameras had a filter button below the gate operated by the cartridge.

Unfortunately, this isn’t correct. There are various Agfa, Bauer, Canon, Chinon, Eumig, Minolta, Sankyo, … without filter pin.

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I ran into an unexpected problem. I noticed my second cartridge never got to the "EXPOSED" tag. It turned out that the cart had not been pushed in far enough and so I thought I was filming when I really wasn't. Sad.

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That’s bad luck! 😪

But it is also strange:

a) The „end of film“ indicator is not coupled to the footage counter, but to some detector at the film gate that is activated by the „end of film“ cut out of the film. (I don’t recall whether it’s the right or the left cut out.) When the film is not close enough to the claw to be transported, the indicator should be permanently visible while filming. 
b) Closing the film chamber‘s rear cover should not be possible when the cartridge is in a completely incorrect position. Otherwise, closing the cover should move the cart forward to the correct position.

In other words: it might have also been a damaged camera or another case of „Kodak proudly presents: the jamming cart“.

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6 hours ago, Joerg Polzfusz said:

b) Closing the film chamber‘s rear cover should not be possible when the cartridge is in a completely incorrect position. Otherwise, closing the cover should move the cart forward to the correct position.

I noticed, when re-inserting the cartridge, that the door struggled a bit to lock up. Then I pushed the film into the camera and I heard a clicking sound of the cartridge settling into place. Now I know to watch out for that. I'm going there in two weeks again, next time with the Nikon R10. I'll be sending my film to Cinelab for a transfer.

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