Identify ussr Ukrainian 16mm film

Fredrik Blomberg · February 6

I found this spool of exposed 16mm film in a Kiev camera.

No marks on spool, beginning ore end of the film.

Can't se any rimjet.

Anyone know what it can be?

Would like to try to develop it.

Simon Wyss · February 7

Svema OC 50 probably

Fredrik Blomberg · February 7

22 minutes ago, Simon Wyss said:

Svema OC 50 probably

Thanks a lot!

Do you have any experience of developing this?

I would do a test stripe and develop it with hc-110 in different times.

Simon Wyss · February 7

Indeed. A high-contrast recipe isn’t necessary. A HQ rich developer will do fine. Dichromate bleach, though, a clearing bath, then under water for second exposure with incandescent light. Same developer again, rinse, and fixing bath

Fredrik Blomberg · February 7

Is it possible to do negative development?

Simon Wyss · February 7

It’s always possible but you won’t see an image because the subcoating remains substantially opaque, a thin layer that contains manganese dioxide. This acts as a countermeasure to stray light reflected by the base plastic or antihalation agent. It must be bleached and thus made soluble. The clearing bath dissolves it out the film like the fixing bath dissolves the remaining silver compounds.

Fredrik Blomberg · February 7

I will try bw reversal in future. Will save this one in the fridge until then.

Thanks for all help!

Simon Wyss · February 8

Var så god.

Fredrik Blomberg · February 18

I did made a test exposure at 20 iso on a part that i thought was unexposed.

My grascale card is visable a littlebit but the old exposure was coming out a lot better then expected.

I did hope for some text to identefy the film but nothing.

This is HC-110 B 8 min at 18c

I will make a new test with 10 min at 18c.

Fantastic timecapsle.

Fredrik Blomberg · February 18

Here is second test at 10 min same developer. I think i go for this one.

Now the graycard is more visibel.

Fredrik Blomberg · February 18

Also 10 min

Fredrik Blomberg · February 20

Here is final result

Roy Cross · February 27

Nice job! Daughter going off to school, perhaps! I wonder if any European members can identify the make and year of that car. I'm curious to know how long that film sat in the camera!

Mark Dunn · February 27

Don't know about the first one, but at 0:24 there's a Lada 2104/5/7 (called the Riva in the UK) which puts it after 1979, unless it's the similar predecessor VAZ 2101, which could take it back to 1970.

Edited February 27 by Mark Dunn

Mark Dunn · February 27

I think the first one is a GAZ M20 Pobeda, 1946-1958. So a classic then. Or just old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ-M20_Pobeda

Edited February 27 by Mark Dunn

Roy Cross · February 27

Thanks! Never would have been able to identify those cars. Great split windscreen on the Pobeda.

Mark Dunn · February 27

5 minutes ago, Roy Cross said:

Thanks! Never would have been able to identify those cars. Great split windscreen on the Pobeda.

It's not too hard, there just weren't that many different marques behind the Iron Curtain.

We had a Lada (not that one) till 2002. Roughly made but quite tough. Very poor parts quality but easy enough to fix. The joke here was : How do you double the value of a Lada? Fill the tank with petrol.

Edited February 27 by Mark Dunn