Stuart Brereton Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 One of the challenges on this promo was that the set was fairly small (30' x 20') and the backcloth was only 40' wide and 15' high. This meant that we could only really shoot in one direction. Our main camera setup was a 30' track laid parallel to the front of the set, which was about 15' back. We had plenty of dingle set up much closer to camera to give us some foreground. We then shot 2 or 3 takes of each band member, usually a mid shot and a closeup which alternated between instrument and face. The Director, Adam Mason, also likes to zoom a lot while tracking to give some variety to the shots. The singer was covered in 8 or 9 takes. The 'day' setup was covered in the same way. a couple of wides, then mids, then in CU. Lots of zooms. There were other setups, a lot of which didn't make the cut, but probably 90% of the finished video was shot from the same track. All in all, probably 40 setups, but as I've said, a lot of them were very similar. There were comments earlier in the thread about the pace of the edit. Some of that was down to the nature of the thing - it's a rock video, after all, but some of it was down to having to disguise the limitations of the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Jenkins Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Well, it worked really well. And I quite like this version of the song :P How do you go about storyboarding/shot listing something like that? Every single thing you'll need or just know the basic set ups and go from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 In this case, the director and I turned up on set the day before the shoot, looked at the size of the backcloth, looked at each other, said 'poop' and decided to shoot everything one way, and to keep the camera moving as much as possible to disguise it. There was only one shot storyboarded. That was the closeup of the girl lying down, shot from slightly above and behind her. It was a reference to a Nick Cave promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Jenkins Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Nice, I think it worked well. Thanks for all the info :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Out of interest, where do you actually buy these spacelights from? I've seen them being used on various film sets, yet I've never seen them for sale anywhere. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 Mole Richardson make them, as do other companies, but quite often the Lighting rental firms will make their own. Lee Lighting apparently made over 1500 of them for 'Sleepy Hollow'. It's such a simple design, anyone with electrical and workshop skills could make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 My gosh, Stuart, they're wonderful. I especially love those low light shots, I love the way they are lit and framed. Good luck. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted January 28, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi, I don't get spacelights at all. Unless you're in a very tall studio with black drapes surrounding, they seem to produce exactly the sort of light I spend half my time trying desperately to avoid - slightly toppy, but flat, directionless, sourceless, shadowless. Completely boring - BBC lighting, the only tendency being to make people look hollow-eyed. Clearly I'm missing something. What's the attraction? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Michael Nash Posted January 29, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi, I don't get spacelights at all. Unless you're in a very tall studio with black drapes surrounding, they seem to produce exactly the sort of light I spend half my time trying desperately to avoid - slightly toppy, but flat, directionless, sourceless, shadowless. Completely boring - BBC lighting, the only tendency being to make people look hollow-eyed. Clearly I'm missing something. What's the attraction? Phil That's exactly the way light looks in a forest, or under an overcast sky. If that's what you're trying to emulate on a stage, then they are the perfect tool. If you didn't have soft, toppy "skylight" on a forest set, it wouldn't look quite real. Of course, this particular video takes "real" only as a starting point and then pushes well past into fantasy, by design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 As Michael says, if you lighting a set where you need to duplicate skylight, then spacelights are good way of doing it. It is a top light, although very soft, so you would need to key from lower down, unless you wanted dark eye sockets on everyone. They give you a good base illumination, that you can then add your keys and kickers and whatever to. In this video, I was keying with 4x4 kinos from just above eye level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I love the way way handle light, those low light shots are subtle, but have clarity. :rolleyes: Low light shots in which you can't see the full image depress me somewhat, in fact, everything depresses me. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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