super 8 lab europe

nacho lopez · August 5, 2004

We are from spain. We have to to develope 20 rolls: ten colour reversal 7240, 5 bw reversal 7266 and five colour negative 7218.

I have found 2 lab one german andec filmtechnick and one from holland. The german one is cheaper but i dont have references from them. Some one develope some there? any problem? what kind of film you develope?

i have good references from holland one super 8 reversal lab, any one use it?

Also i want some ideas to pass to video. At first we want it in beta sp we have a video of beatcam sp. and then edit it on line because of time reference.

there are some best ideas?

thank you!!

Phil Rhodes · August 5, 2004

Hi,

The only information I have is that the place I used in London had to send them to LA but said that there would be super-8 processing in the UK "within weeks."

This was "weeks" ago.

Phil

Matt Wells · August 6, 2004

Hi there,

I have used Andec and they are very good, and everything is done properly.

Have just received some processed super8 negative back from them today.

Matt

nacho lopez · August 6, 2004

hi and thank you

probably we are going to use andec.

And how about the transfer to betacam o video and then editing?

Alessandro Machi · August 6, 2004

I have an editing studio and I edit master everything onto BetaCam SP even if the origination footage is in a different video format. If you do not need to do video layering than BetaCam SP is a good way to go, I hope you aren't overpaying for it however.

Will you be doing any Non Linear Editing?

I assume you will be getting VHS window burns of your transferred footage so you can pre-create an edit decision list before going into the studio.

Phil Rhodes · August 6, 2004

Hi,

I have absolutely no idea why anyone would go through all of that when miniDV and DVCAM exist, alongside sub-grand desktop editing.

Phil

Giles Perkins · August 6, 2004

Agreed Phil,

most expensive telecine I can afford at the time (sadly this varies), onto MiniDV, then enjoy the editing process at home....

as for processing and telecine in Europe, our impartial list is growing somewhat....

www.onsuper8.org

regards,

Giles

www.onsuper8.org

nacho lopez · August 6, 2004

thank you giles, i use your list of onsuper8

Alessandro Machi · August 7, 2004

Hi,

I have absolutely no idea why anyone would go through all of that when miniDV and DVCAM exist, alongside sub-grand desktop editing.

Phil

Eventually, a hardier master will probably be needed, such as Digital BetaCam or BetaCam SP.

That's why I asked if any layering would be done. This may come as a surprise, but color correction is actually quicker and easier with tape to tape editing. Matching video levels shot by shot isn't as easy as some would lead you to believe, usually it can't be done until you see it lined up with the shot before and after.

You can do all the pre color correcting you want on the raw footage in NLE, but you still should tweak once the project is actually edited. Using Clip to optimize color and contrast on projects that didn't have million dollar lighting budgets is critical, and I have yet to see low budget projects clipped as well was what I do in analog. Proper clipping is one of the most complex color correction steps that can be taken, and most don't do it well in NLE and it certainly takes longer than doing it BetaCam to BetaCam. As you strategize and figure out your clip and contrast ratios, the chroma intesity has to be altered, knobs and dials are faster than NLE in these types of situations.

Christian Appelt · August 20, 2004

I also recommend Andec Filmtechnik, they do a great job in all 8 & 16mm formats even 9.5mm IIRC) :) I also recommend bringing your stuff there in person and having some fun in Berlin while you wait...