rob spence Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi Does anyone know the best way to produce a realistic gunfire flash off camera. I need to do a shot of a soldier firing a gun in the air at night...the gun will be off camera as he raises his hand with the gun many thanks rob spence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted April 16, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted April 16, 2007 Generally a flash from a strobe or an old-fashioned flashbulb works, gelled orange if possible. Prop people sometimes have these flash trays that hold the old flashcubes for these sorts of effects. The flash is longer in duration than from an electronic flash on a still camera. See: http://www.flashbulbs.com/index.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Miya Posted April 16, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted April 16, 2007 If shooting on film with a reflex camera, remember this: if you see the flash (gunfire, strobe, or any other flash faster than 1/48th of a second) in the viewfinder, then you won't see it on the film. Keep shooting until you get a shot where you didn't see the flash in the viewfinder/video assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob spence Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Thanks Dave and to simon interesting point rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Miya Posted April 17, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted April 17, 2007 I should amend that to say that you might see the flash on film if you saw it in the viewfinder - there could be some overlap over the shutter boundary if the flash is timed just right. But that is far from a sure bet, and the only way to be certain is to keep shooting until you get a shot where you see no flash in the viewfinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Alzaga Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I should amend that to say that you might see the flash on film if you saw it in the viewfinder - there could be some overlap over the shutter boundary if the flash is timed just right. But that is far from a sure bet, and the only way to be certain is to keep shooting until you get a shot where you see no flash in the viewfinder. One time, shooting at night, the DoP needs to simulate a gun shot. But the gun was on camera. So he use a HMI 575w with 85 half and in front of the light que put a frame with several stripes of steel. This thing have a system, so when you pull up a stick the stripes open and the light pass throug and when you pull the stripes close. I have to said that a tree was near the light so the effect is more realistic because the light bounce in the tree. You can see the effect in the trailer. PLease visit http://www.paristexas.com.uy/EL_COJONUDO/trailer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamilmaaran Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 (edited) If shooting on film with a reflex camera, remember this: if you see the flash (gunfire, strobe, or any other flash faster than 1/48th of a second) in the viewfinder, then you won't see it on the film. Keep shooting until you get a shot where you didn't see the flash in the viewfinder/video assist. Nice. that is most notable point. Thank you. N.THAMILMAARAN, INDIAcinemaran@gmail.com Edited April 22, 2007 by thamilmaaran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tony Brown Posted April 22, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted April 22, 2007 As you're in the UK contact David French Props http://www.photohire.btinternet.co.uk/ for long duration flash bulb / guns. They supply either single guns or a unit that will fire up to 4. Dont worry about the shutter with these, they are long burn and never miss. Used them in Prague last week, they always work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob spence Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 As you're in the UK contact David French Props http://www.photohire.btinternet.co.uk/ for long duration flash bulb / guns. They supply either single guns or a unit that will fire up to 4. Dont worry about the shutter with these, they are long burn and never miss. Used them in Prague last week, they always work great. Thanks Tony Seems like a great belt and braces way to achieve the effect rob spence www.bigness.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evan Pierre Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 One time, shooting at night, the DoP needs to simulate a gun shot. But the gun was on camera. So he use a HMI 575w with 85 half and in front of the light que put a frame with several stripes of steel. This thing have a system, so when you pull up a stick the stripes open and the light pass throug and when you pull the stripes close. I have to said that a tree was near the light so the effect is more realistic because the light bounce in the tree. You can see the effect in the trailer. PLease visit http://www.paristexas.com.uy/EL_COJONUDO/trailer.html Is this the part you meant? You did a nice job, it looks like he's firing a real bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Alzaga Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Is this the part you meant? You did a nice job, it looks like he's firing a real bullet. I meant other scene. Is almost at the end of the trailer. The actor shoot to the air. You can see the the HMI 575 reflected on the tree at the left. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Alzaga Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I meant other scene. Is almost at the end of the trailer. The actor shoot to the air. You can see the the HMI 575 reflected on the tree at the left. Thanks This is the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evan Pierre Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is the scene. gotcha thanks I didnt realize that was a tree at first ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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