Sean Conaty Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Hey Everyone, So I'm shooting a movie in which the majority takes place in an elevator. We'll be doing all of that on stage. Problem is, we have a few shots in which we need to transition from the on-location elevator (that we're matching on stage) to the on-location lobby. The shot is a 2 shot from the lobby looking in on the heroes and then the door closes. And visa versa: 2 shot, door opens, heroes walk out into the lobby. Problems: -Getting enough light into our on-location elevator so that we are not locked into having to match a poorly lit elevator when we're on stage. Fortunately, we have the ability to turn off the elevator while we're lighting, but then it needs to be live during the take. This means, we can't run any sort of cable into the elevator. What do you guys suggest for this problem? It's really only a quick shot so it doesn't have to match PERFECTLY what we end up shooting on stage, but I'd like it to be at least similar. Is there a way to run 4ft 4Bank Kinos on Batttery Power off say an Anton Bauer brick? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Sean Conaty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Kieran Scannell Posted September 15, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted September 15, 2007 Hi Sean, You might try Litepanels, I think 4 or 5 of these wonderful little lights would cover your shot, you might have to test but there battery powerd,dimable, and have a surprising output. They also have a nifty set of diffusion and correction filters! Hope this helps! Kieran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Irwin Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 LitePanels is a smart call, but if you prefer / can only afford the Kino for this... I've run a 2ft 4-bank from a car battery with a 400w power inverter (to mount on a dolly for a long hallway shot). I ran the light for about an hour straight and didn't have any problems with voltage drop. A 4x4 would work perfectly well-- just switch it off when it's not needed and you should be able to get a couple hours use from one battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Kieran Scannell Posted September 15, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted September 15, 2007 LitePanels is a smart call, but if you prefer / can only afford the Kino for this...I've run a 2ft 4-bank from a car battery with a 400w power inverter (to mount on a dolly for a long hallway shot). I ran the light for about an hour straight and didn't have any problems with voltage drop. A 4x4 would work perfectly well-- just switch it off when it's not needed and you should be able to get a couple hours use from one battery. This would be a better solution than an array of litepanels, which might indeed be expensive to rent! Thanks Matt! Kieran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Fritts Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Kino Flo makes an 1800watt inverter with a battery pack. It can run two 4x4 kinos all day on one charge. I usually use them for car rigs, but they will work well for this situation as well. The only draw back is their size and weight. The battery is a 20"x20"x20" cube and weighs around 80 pounds. Most of the time they have caster wheels attached to the bottom. Most rental houses will carry this set up. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward read Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 While Kino's are awesome ( I own a bunch) why not get marine batteries and make a lite box of 12volt lamps? 12 bolt mr16s are really brite and can be wired into a litebox of foamcore really effectively. The batteries can live ontop of the elevator (through the maintenance hatch) and the light box can be 4" thick. Also most elevators have a 15 amp outlet in the maintenance panel - you just need the key. Kino Flo makes an 1800watt inverter with a battery pack. It can run two 4x4 kinos all day on one charge. I usually use them for car rigs, but they will work well for this situation as well. The only draw back is their size and weight. The battery is a 20"x20"x20" cube and weighs around 80 pounds. Most of the time they have caster wheels attached to the bottom. Most rental houses will carry this set up. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 E. Read has provided an excellant idea. Most elevators have a 110v outlet for maintainence, although I recall seeing it on top of the elevator cab. Getting access to it may be a problem, hatches, at least in NYC, NY are all bolted shut to prevent accidents from "elevator surfing". As told to me by a life long elevator repairguy. What kind of lighting is in the elevator? Cool white tubes? Bare bulbs, small pars? Anything with a socket that you can tap power from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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