Brian Drysdale Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Seems Sony has a new camera in the wings. http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200711/07-1120/ There's some debate on CML if Sony has fitted Bayer or a Genesis style sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timo Klages Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Seems Sony has a new camera in the wings. http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/200711/07-1120/ There's some debate on CML if Sony has fitted Bayer or a Genesis style sensor. can you read anything on that website apart from f23 and f35? greets, timo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 can you read anything on that website apart from f23 and f35? greets, timo If you can handle the Japanese characters you can do a translation. Unfortunately, I can't just paste the google translation from a message on CML, which is the usual quirky affair, but I'll sum up what the F35 basics seem to be: F23 Chassis with 35mm full aperture size striped CCD sensor and PL mount with 1920 X 1080 output. Currently available only in Japan - rest of world after late 2008/Early 2009. 50P 4:4:4 maximum frame rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Yeomans Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 If you can handle the Japanese characters you can do a translation. Unfortunately, I can't just paste the google translation from a message on CML, which is the usual quirky affair, but I'll sum up what the F35 basics seem to be: F23 Chassis with 35mm full aperture size striped CCD sensor and PL mount with 1920 X 1080 output. Currently available only in Japan - rest of world after late 2008/Early 2009. 50P 4:4:4 maximum frame rate. Wasn't Speed Racer filmed with the F23? I could be wrong Yeomans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted December 9, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 9, 2007 Wasn't Speed Racer filmed with the F23? Yes. The F23 has 2/3" CCD's, three in a prism block. Apparently the F35 has an RGB striped single 35mm sensor like the Genesis (I could be wrong though), which makes sense in a way, since it is a simpler process to get to 4:4:4 RGB at 1920 x 1080 for recording to HDCAM-SR, compared to a Bayer filter and debayering algorithm, although the Arri-D20 does this and is often recorded to an HDCAM-SR at HD resolution. Take a look at the wacky trailer for "Speed Racer" here: http://movies.aol.com/movie/speed-racer-2008/28066/main Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Take a look at the wacky trailer for "Speed Racer" here:http://movies.aol.com/movie/speed-racer-2008/28066/main Saw that trailer just before "Golden Compass". I think they might have achieved an all too literal translation of the cartoon to film. It'll be interesting...maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fritzshall Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Saw that trailer just before "Golden Compass". I think they might have achieved an all too literal translation of the cartoon to film. It'll be interesting...maybe. It is. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted April 10, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted April 10, 2008 Apparently the F35 has an RGB striped single 35mm sensor like the Genesis (I could be wrong though) IIRC, the chip in Genesis is made by Sony. It could be that Sony retained the IP rights to the mask set, and gave Panavision an exclusive period which has now expired. That's a guess, though. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) I believe BandPro is showing the F35 at NAB. Interesting that the two different approaches are developing further this year, the traditional video type recording camera as in the F35 and RAW now also available on the Arri D21 (with a HD option). Edited April 10, 2008 by Brian Drysdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Brehm Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I'm a Data Tech/ AC out of Videofax here in San Francisco and we have a F23 and it blows me away what that camera can achieve especially in the Blue,Violet range of the spectrum. I've done a few commercials and love HyperGamma 4 because I can see colors I've never seen on a 4:4:4 monitor before. I never saw a camera that could hold detail past 3.5+ stops over key. If the F35 is anywhere near the F23 I'll be nothing short of blown away. Again! FYI the Striped Sensor on the Genesis is by far the best Sensor for Green Screen. We also have a reservation for the F35 which will be at NAB and no doubt Jeff Cree will be there to talk about it! Dane Brehm 1st AC / DMT San Francisco, CA 4k + Raw Consultancy 4krawconsultant@gmail.com 310.710.2658 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Price Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Does anyone know the exact sensor size of the F35 in millimeters? And what the exact mega pixel count is for it? Thanks Steve Price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Does anyone know the exact sensor size of the F35 in millimeters? And what the exact mega pixel count is for it? Thanks Steve Price Sony say it's Super 35 mm sized and 12 mega pixel. http://www.bandprof35.com/F35_Brochure.pdf So, I'd assume in practical terms it's 24.89mm x 18.66mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Price Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 So, I'd assume in practical terms it's 24.89mm x 18.66mm. Thanks for your reply If you divide 24.89 into 18.66 you get 1.33 hence 4x3. The F35 has a 16x9 sized sensor. I'm looking for the exact size in millimeters. Anyone? Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Thanks for your reply If you divide 24.89 into 18.66 you get 1.33 hence 4x3. The F35 has a 16x9 sized sensor. I'm looking for the exact size in millimeters. Anyone? Thanks Steve The Genesis is 23.62mm by 13.28mm using the same Sony sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Price Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Price Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sorry, I have a couple more questions. I promise I have searched extensively, but so far have not found the answers. I appreciate the F35 is very similar to the Genesis but I am not too familiar with that camera. Does the F35 have a Rolling or Global Shutter? What colour temperature is the camera, is it 3200k like most CCD cameras? Thank you for your time. Steve Price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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