Bryan Fowler Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 And I have a feeling that if this weren't about Red, no one would care. True Max. Tim, Good luck selling them. I'm sure you will. You might even be able to keep one with the profits. I think the Red is great. It's allowed me to do things that film wouldn't be able to let me do. Bryan "I must be a greedy bastard" Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tim Pipher Posted March 21, 2008 Author Premium Member Share Posted March 21, 2008 What spec did they change? Elimination of 1080 HD-SDI output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tim Carroll Posted March 21, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted March 21, 2008 Elimination of 1080 HD-SDI output. Well I hope they have offered you your money back if they removed an important feature after you gave them a deposit. And I have a feeling that if this weren't about Red, no one would care. Max is right. I apologize for responding to this thread. It's none of my business and just one more "RED" issue. Best, -Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ivan Yousif Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think you deserve a premium for being a early res holder! People do this poop for living and here you are with specs that have back fired and not just flipping them to make money. GOOD LUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tylerhawes Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 So long as he's not making misleading statements or hiding something, I don't see anything wrong with trying to make some markup. He has had his money invested all this time in order to secure his spot in line, after all. Is it too much to expect that someone in the market can do the math and determine if it is worth paying a premium for having it now vs. waiting? People do this all the time. They pay an extra $5,000 to buy a Mini Cooper rather than wait a year for the price to drop because everyone is rushing to get it. And that's just for transportation, whereas this is for an actually unique tool you could be productive with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Gross Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Well that was fun, wasn't it? Travel in a nice little circle of Tim & RED being evil incarnate to hey he's just offering something up and RED is being accomodating to those who want it. As a representative of a facility that buys, sells & rents equipment every day -- including new gear that is on a reservation list -- I see absolutely no problem with what Tim is doing or how he is going about doing it. And I'm happy he's buying those HXP3000's from us ;-) Now, anyone care to discuss whether the earth is flat or round? How about faking the moon landing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dan Goulder Posted March 21, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted March 21, 2008 ...and if Plan A doesn't work out, you may consider Plan B...in which you could benevolently just cancel your order, allowing the three reservation holders following you to experience the joy of receiving their dream camera perhaps a few days earlier... ...or, you could mark up and auction off your reservations to a few other reservation holders waiting further down the line...who could then auction off their reservations to people waiting even further down the line...and then...aw, forget it! Okay, I've got it! Everyone tired of waiting should just cancel their order, and buy a HXP3000 from Mitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Alex Ellerman Posted March 22, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted March 22, 2008 you don't own this equipment. you own a derivative (of an equity) that is a camera. You haven't outright purchased a camera. You are selling an option on a place in line, and that's my problem. Maybe you think it's great when people stand in line to buy an iphone they don't want and put it on ebay, manipulating an inefficiency in the marketplace, but I happen to think it's not. nothing personal, to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasKoch Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 It's called Supply and Demand. If Demand is higher than Supply, prices go up. If Demand is lower than Supply, prices go down. If you have an Option to purchase (just like in the stock market) you have something of value that other people don't have, but WANT. If I had the money, I'd get one from Tim. Giving it was my advice in the beginning to get them in the first place. (Sorry it didn't work out for you, Tim) But I've got a June delivery scheduled, so I'm gathering up my funds for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted March 24, 2008 Site Sponsor Share Posted March 24, 2008 Gimme a break - this isn't capitalism - this is exploiting an inefficiency for personal gain, That isn't Capitalism? Damn I guess I have to go burn all those books then.....I was just at Harvard Business School Thursday, I wonder how they will react to having to burn their library down, oh well I call them up and ask on monday... Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Alex Ellerman Posted March 24, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted March 24, 2008 Rob - I wasn't denying this was capitalism, i was being more specific with the language than so broad as to say commerce or business or capitalism... uh, hilarious library burning joke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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