Rolando Fernandez Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 check this link, http://exposureroom.com/members/livingcine...37286efe28bb47/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hepburn Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 That really held up nicely. Love the black and white. Was it shot and Interrupted at 18fps? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Alderslade Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 check this link, http://exposureroom.com/members/livingcine...37286efe28bb47/ Beautiful! The colour looked great but the black and white was wonderful! I'm sure your clients were very happy with this footage. Can you tell us a little a bit about it? Who did your dev and telecine etc.? Cheers, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg ocallaghan Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Looks amazing! What stocks are these? Color neg or reversal? How was it transfered to HD, by whom, and for how much? Btw, was this superduper8 or just cropped? Edited October 30, 2008 by greg ocallaghan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas James Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 This sure does not look high definition to me but using high definition is probably the best way of preserving the quality of 8mm because of the incompatibility of the formats due to irregular grain patterns. I good argument could also be made that the best way to transfer high definition video is to use 70mm film. But such a transfer would never even come near to 70mm film quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Knights Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Hi; Millenium II Scan in 16/9.... Gotta be Pro8 no? regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted October 31, 2008 Site Sponsor Share Posted October 31, 2008 Looks great, I disagree that it does not look "HD" as "HD" is not only dull over clean imagery it can also have texture and meet the resolution and color specs. Also it has to be pro-8 and the Millenium is one of the best telecine machines ever made. -Rob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas James Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 What you call texture is in actuality simply noise which is an artifact that damages picture quality. This does not mean that texture is unacceptable but in my opinion the texture to be considered high definition must be as fine as possible. 8mm simply has to course of a texture pattern to be considered high definition and this is because the texture masks whatever fine detail exsts in the picture. 16mm on the otherhand might pass for high definition. You may be in fact confusing high definition HDTV with enhanced definition EDTV. When comparing the picture quality of a crummy analog interlaced television which has a notorius screen door effect and is littered with black scanning lines EDTV with its fully progressive 480 lines of resolution can often pass for high definition especially when it is projected at 60 frames per second on a Plasma television. But EDTV is not high definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Loredo Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) It definitely looks HD to me. "Noise" is related to electronic image (video) but what we see here is not any noise at all, but Super8 "grain" (E 64T I guess). The B/W part of the video and it's definition says it all... Edited October 31, 2008 by Miguel Loredo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Wallace Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Looks fantastic all around. I especially liked the interiors with the girl and the dress, shooting through the lace, or curtains or whatever was going on there. Truly superb. It looks like all available light too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted November 1, 2008 Site Sponsor Share Posted November 1, 2008 What you call texture is in actuality simply noise which is an artifact that damages picture quality. the picture. 16mm on the otherhand might pass for high definition.You may be in fact confusing high definition HDTV with enhanced definition EDTV. Clearly you and I will never agree, even though you are completely wrong :lol: Film grain is not noise it's beauty and i know the difference between hdtv and ed. Furthermore 16mm is a superior origination medium for both 1080P Hd and 2k. -Rob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Moore Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) It looks like there's both film grain as well as digital artifacting from compressing the image for the web. I'd like to see a better quality file format. BTW: The footage looks incredible! I'd also like to know how much the transfer cost. Edited November 2, 2008 by John Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Ratner Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 If I can learn to replicate that b&w quality, I will be a happy man! So I too am curious to know what he shot on. Rolandodo--donde estas? Cual pelicula usaste? I really, REALLY loved it, but he did make one mistake: That bride had RIDICULOUSLY long toes, and I doubt she was happy with that aspect of the footage. (I'm a real romantic, can't you tell?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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