Is the use of film redundant?

[Gregg MacPherson]

Fenn Penridge may be an amusing fiction. See this......

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qleG61tuQgk

[Matthew W. Phillips]

I guess I got "whooshed". :D

[Fenn Penridge]

This is truly bizarre. No one has ever said to me before that my name doesn't "sound" real. Equally I've never been accused before of being fictional!! I'm sorry if my "amateur" ways aren't up to your standards. But let me tell you something, I have a list of clients who are extremely happy with the work i've done for them using all manner of cameras and techniques. It's not like i'd shoot a feature length on a bloody iphone. I'd obviously go with something like a Arry Elixir or EPIC or something!

 

Oh, and also, that boy in the youtube video isn't me! I haven't looked that young in many, many years!

 

Very best to you all anyway. Thanks for the welcome! :-)

[Matthew W. Phillips]

You must be trolling...what is an Arri Elixir? Is that what a DP takes when they have a cold? :D

[Fenn Penridge]

Ah! Sorry Ari Alexa! Bloody hell... ;-)

[Keith Walters]

It's my belief that film will be very much redundant in the very near future. I recently suggested to a client, a high-street super-chain selling high-end fashion, that we shoot an ad on 35mil as they were after a retro look and they weren't interested. The budget was there but they thought it was "too old-school". So I turned up at the shoot with an iPhone with a shallow depth of field rig and they loved it. The results were great too. Very 35mil. Needless to say they, and I, were happy. So was my bank.

 

In my own personal films I tend to use what ever is best suited to the job. Sometimes it's a 5D, sometimes it's an iphone. What ever I choose I always get the required results. Interesting post though. Looking forward to getting to know the community here.

 

Cheers yeah,

 

Fenn

Generally I think Samsung Phones (Galaxy II & III etc) have better cameras than the equivalent iPhone, but you're right, it's positively frightening how good the picture quality is. And not just for motion pictures either; you can make perfectly acceptable 6 x 4 prints from stills taken from 30fps 1080p video, and it massively increases your chances of getting a really good portrait.

Compared to what we used to use 30 years ago, this is like Science Fiction; you can record up to 3 hours of full HD (and play it back; gotta love those AMOLED screens) on a thing you can easily carry in your pocket. And it makes phone calls too....

 

Actually I've had an idea for making up a camera rig where the phone captures an image focused on a sheet of white silk by a 2" diameter front element off a broken pair of binoculars. Because the lens is so big and the image area would be 30cm or so across and there is no iris, the depth of field would be ultra-shallow, which should make real-world shots look like miniature models. I've seen that done before, but not terribly well

[Fenn Penridge]

It's a strange situation to be in sometimes when one client wants to see big, impressive cameras being used, large screen iMacs for onsite editing because it simply looks "the balls". Then you have other clients who are happy when you turn up with an iPhone rig or a 5D and edit on a tablet. The results are incomparable really but some people just want to be seen to be hyper trendy, current and modern. Even to the detriment of the end result. You know, the thing for which they've paid through the nose. Oddness.

[Matthew W. Phillips]

This thread is foolishness and Keith, my God man! What the @#$%?

 

Talk about descending into self-parody.

[Chris Burke]

Do you perhaps me less relevant? Redundant, of course it is. As some one who works as a media manager/DIT, you want redundancy, always. Especially nowadays with digital post, film as acquisition is the best, you have the asset of it's redundancy built in.

[Keith Walters]

This thread is foolishness and Keith, my God man! What the @#$%?

 

Talk about descending into self-parody.

I am perfectly serious.

[Matthew W. Phillips]

I am perfectly serious.

 

So you have beef with the Red but you think a phone is acceptable? wow.

[Fenn Penridge]

I just looked it up and you can't even make calls on a Red! For the kind of prices they charge I at least expect to be able to send a bloody text! Jim needs to get his poop sorted. Seriously. I'm shooting a music video next month for Chris de Burgh using a Nokia 6680 3G. I can call, I can text, I can shoot Chris while video calling my uncle in prison. Can a Red do that? Yeah, didn't think so.

[Guest Martin Newstead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIgsJn2bIqs

 

LOL :D