Alexander Boyd Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Hi everyone, I recently got my hands on an old Kinoptic Apochromat 35mm f2 in very good condition and I'm considering having it rehoused by P+S Technik in Germany. However, it would be quite an expensive investment, and I'm wondering how this lens holds up against a cine-modded, PL-Version LOMO Spheric 35mm f2 (the OKS-11 version to be specific). I'm comparing these two specifically because I'm looking for a vintage, compact 35mm lens, and these two were of particular interest to me. Curious to hear your thoughts and if anyone has experiences with them. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Joel W Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Hi Alexander, I own an OKS-11-35-1. I don't know how "vintage" it is, I believe it's from the 1980s and it doesn't quite have the more petzval-like bokeh you might see in a Cine-Xenon (just saw one sell for $277 on eBay). The Cine-Xenon looks a bit like an S2/S3 to me. Never used the Kinoptic. The OCT-18 mount is more like an old Arri standard mount, and rotates within the mount. This can lead to the focus being a bit stiff unless properly rehoused. OCT-19 should be a better fit for converting to PL with a simple adapter. (I think.) Not sure about the mechanics on the Kinoptic. Here's a little video I made comparing some vintage lenses: I found the 35mm similarly sharp to the 28mm. Edited July 27, 2020 by M Joel W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Boyd Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Thanks a lot for your feedback! I actually made I mistake, I meant the OCT-19 version (which indeed is easier to convert to PL). Heard a lot of good things about that version. I also saw some nice footage shot on the Kinoptiks, so coming across one in really good condition I simply went for it, yet still exploring other options since it won't be for another couple of months until I'd actually get a rehousing done. The Schneider (Cine) Xenons would have been another choice, I just haven't found one in good condition (must have somehow missed the one you mentioned selling for $277). Edited July 27, 2020 by Alexander Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Joel W Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 If you own the Kinoptic I'm really curious to see some footage from it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Boyd Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) I own it, but haven't been able to use it yet since it's still in the original Cameflex mount. Here's a piece that Zack Spiger (I think he's on here too) shot using Kinoptiks: https://www.vantagefilm.com/en/news/re-housed-kinoptik-glass-10507#gallery-5 Edited July 27, 2020 by Alexander Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Joel W Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Alexander Boyd said: I own it, but haven't been able to use it yet since it's still in the original Cameflex mount. Here's a piece that Zack Spiger (I think he's on here too) shot using Kinoptiks: https://www.vantagefilm.com/en/news/re-housed-kinoptik-glass-10507#gallery-5 Just beautiful. The Kinoptik reminds me more of the Schneider than of the Lomo. Looks better than both, but the talent involved and shooting 2-perf I'm sure helps, too. Definitely closer to the Schneider to my eye at least. More petzval-like bokeh. I'm ashamed to post my ten-minute lens test with the 35mm Lomo, but I found it online. I didn't even have access to a proper focusing adapter so I was just trying to get an idea of bokeh/flare/sharpness: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ob2pnfyq5iypix1/AACnZXUKKA1Piql_e6xdVApla?dl=0 Literally just ten minutes and random objects to get a sense of the bokeh. But you can see it has quite a different character from Kinoptik. Edited July 27, 2020 by M Joel W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Squires Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Alexander, do you still have the Kinoptik 35mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Boyd Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 sorry somehow missed your question. It‘s sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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