geronimouse Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 :huh: I am using my Canon XM1 to t/cine my old 8mm movies thru a lens off the emulsion. Having trouble with white balance settings ie which one is best to use? Anyone any suggestions please......................Cheers Gero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted May 2, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted May 2, 2004 The white balance would be based on the light source being used to illuminate the film. If it's a tungsten projection bulb, then the white balance would be for tungsten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Michael Nash Posted May 3, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted May 3, 2004 If that doesn't work, try doing a manual white balance on the screen with just the raw light of the projector, before you thread up the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacho lopez Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Hi there. hey could we do directly a telecine from super 8 from de negative with a camera, home made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacho lopez Posted August 6, 2004 Share Posted August 6, 2004 Me another time are there some best to do a telecine from super8 reversal colour, b&w and colour negative? Also i ask for the home made, but directly from the film no from projection. thanke!!! gracias! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted August 6, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 6, 2004 For a homemade telecine of reversal film, you may want to white balance with a neutral density of about 0.20 in the open gate of the projector --- the whites on a projection contrast reversal film usually are close to that density. I would not risk projecting an original negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Alessandro Machi Posted August 8, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 8, 2004 Me another time are there some best to do a telecine from super8 reversal colour, b&w and colour negative? Also i ask for the home made, but directly from the film no from projection. thanke!!! gracias! For a homemade telecine of reversal film, you may want to white balance with a neutral density of about 0.20 in the open gate of the projector --- the whites on a projection contrast reversal film usually are close to that density. I would not risk projecting an original negative. I think he meant scanning as opposed to projecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Bruening Posted August 18, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hello John, Consider this crazy idea: Modifying a Canoscan4000 for MP scanning. It would require a bit of reengineering but doesn't seem out of the question. I calculate that a scan of conformed negs would take about 45 days of round-the-clock scanning. However, for an indie film-maker working in 35mm, I have no particular deadline. I can let one of my idiot computers do all the work and just check on it from time to time. How crazy is this idea? Thanks, Paul Bruening pbruenin@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Bruening Posted August 18, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hello Again John, I found a Kodak RFS 3600 for about $1,200. How much trouble would it be to change the driver to advance the neg at cine perfs instead of still frame perfs? Thanks, Paul Bruening pbruenin@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted August 18, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 18, 2004 Experimenting and tinkering are fine, but building a production-ready, reliable scanning engine for motion pictures is not an easy task. For "real world" productions, throughput is very high on the list of priorities, as a two hour movie is 172,800 images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Yolles Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Paul, I would love see you pull that off. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Bruening Posted August 19, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hello John- Good company-man answer. Hello Nate- It's a shot in the dark. I'm thinking about taking my Arri IIb and using it in the off season for the transport mechanism. I can get a stop motion rig off of ebay for about $1,500. I'm hoping I can mount the light behind the gate and the scanner lens in front of the gate. If I can sync the motor to the scan rate, it might just fly. I'm going to shop on ebay for a cheap scanner just to tear apart. Then I'll look for a IIB hold down plate to cut out. The rest is a matter of a macro to store the data via Photoshop on drives large enough. My early calculations indicate that 6 200GB HDs should hold 2K scans. Since I shoot only about one feature per year there's plenty of time to wait on the scans. What do I care if it takes months to complete the scan if it saves me major bucks? Anyway, It's worth a thought. Thanks, Paul Bruening pbruenin@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted August 19, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hello John- Good company-man answer. It was a realistic answer, based on experience. Scanning movie film sounds simple, but the "devil is in the details". :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted August 19, 2004 Premium Member Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hi, Just scanning conformed neg, without having to care about things like timecode conformation to a video cut, sound sync, keykode, differing base densities of stocks, different thicknesses, versioning, linearity and bit-depth conversions, registration, temperature and humidity, dustbusting and scratch removal.... ....probably isn't too bad. Add in all those things and it becomes - well - involved. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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