Richardson Leao

yes, it was 16, pushing it it got grainer than d-x. but there was a short film, i can't remember now the name (sorry) that won something in cannes that was filmed in orwo 400 and as i remember, it looked like the kodak (i'll have to check). By the fact that 1 stop produced fantastic results, i'd say that you'd be safe ~320. I have telecined it but i'm on holidays at the moment. I may be able to post a clip after 3/1.

I've found some 30m rolls of Maco Rolei IR that were purchased by my department. I've got so excited that I bought a konvas from rafcamera.com (after finding in this wonderful forum that old russian cameras accept KS perfs). These rolls can be loaded in low light as the sensitivity for light lower than 750nm is quite low. Seriously I can't wait. Since I watched 'I am Cuba' I always wanted to try the IR film to get white leaves and black sky. Now finally I have the chance. I wanna see the digital defenders match this one now (unless they use a IR ccd off course...) Unrelated to the post, a emulsional marry christmas for all

Off topic from the chromogenic, but i just found out that ilford 50 pan f can be purchased in bulk rolls too: http://www.adorama.com/ILPFP100.html That means that you can have ultrafine grain in a BW film (off course 30m of 35mm will give you only a bit more than a minute) and you have all the range of ilford films for MP. Ilsford also has chromogenic stuff. Another thing about trying with the lab, c41 developing is extremely easy and very flexible to mistakes, so maybe getting a tank is not a bad idea...

I had a bit different experience as christian. I think it looks beautiful (i exposed it as a 400 pushed 1 stop though during developing and I use kodak D19) . The grain was comparable to 7222. After a 1st contact w it I bought another 400ft and 2x400ft of UN54 (but I dunno how the UN54 will end up).

this one i dunno.

Alright, not many replies... anyway, some more info on this film: A 'patient' questions his ongoing psychiatric treatment. Are the new wave of behavioral diseases real pathologies or another trick from evil pharmaceutical companies and bad medicine. Based on a story by J. P. Sartre. Filmed in Svema (Quartzchrome) 50 and Foma Fomapan double super8.

You can also try to re-bleach (onto K dichromate) after the 2nd developer before the fixer. I did it by accident when developing ecn2 c41; it bleaches out and gives a very faint image, but for BW it gives a 'white' black. In fact, what you'll be doing is getting the unexposed blacks white (as it did to the exposed blacks of the 1st developing). Also, it takes about 10 min to do so, so you could do the fade by gradually decreasing the speed of a rewind tank (remember that you have to turn it about 0.1 rpm to get 10' of exposition on the film surface, alternatively, you can just dip in a solution and gradually pul the film. If you do a stop bath after the 2nd dev, you can even do it in light until you get your desired results.

Hi Ken, I was able to shoot 1000m of film (16mm) bought from ebay and in a trip to st petersburg. The negs were over 20 years old and my film has BW and color takes (some color however, are new vision and eterna) but all the BW was done in an old orwo stock. While there are fragments that show some 'interesting' fogging, overall it looks OK, for my purpose it looks great. I also develop all the BW and some of the color myself, so, there was a lot of room for experimenting. Developing of BW negs is very simple and does not require remjet removing as color (BW reversal is also easy and can be projected). So, I would suggest you to get a tank to develop some footage and then compare/learn with the results. You can buy old BW stock uin ebay for about 5$/30m. I'll be cutting the film soon and I'll be posting some clips of different stocks and cameras. Cheers and marry xmas

I was actually thinking about using 30.5m bulk film (the ones you use in bulk loaders) as they are readly (and cheaply) available, including some amasing ilford stocks.

Hi Stephen, would you have an idea of any older models that could play dvcam? many thanks

Hi all, I finally have done 16mm telecine my first time. Due to my ignorance, i asked the video house to record DVcam format in my miniDV tapes as I was sure that it would play in a normal minidv camera (the ones grandmothers have). To my deception, they don't. So, just to do a simple edition for previewing it, what should I do that would make sense economically? find somewhere to copy it to other miniDV with miniDV format or a hard drive? Rent a deck? Many thanks

i dunno how the process was made but it could be during the re-exposition also, when a film is developed on a tank, some developer can remain inside the perforations and overdevelop whatever emulsion is adjacent to it. i'd not worry.

http://jcsmr.anu.edu.au/~rleao/TMWTTR.avi I know the telecine is crap... I have used one of those boxes with my normal projector however, it's OK to check what foma super8 and svema looks like. Also, this film is a bit to sensitive for australian natural conservativism.

Prints are ks, but I was just thinking about negatives with KS as in my mind (and maybe i am totally wrong) telecine settings for negs and positives would be different.

I am not selling my camera here (otherwise I would post a classified) but just in case someone is interested to see it, here it goes: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...p;rd=1&rd=1

Ryan is right, I particularly like to experiment with very old stocks. The only thing one would keep in mind if experimenting is that having a developing tank allows you to try many many things instead of being afraid due to the lab costs (also, some old emulsions do not survive modern high temp developing)

>Loaded a Daylight Spool in broad daylight and your film survived. no problems (not even on edges) you loose about 1-2m of film though >Kept your exposed film stored at room temp for an extended period of time, and yet it survived. Black and white for a year, turn out good. >Had your film scanned by Airport X-Rays, and yet it survived. it changed a roll of Svema 50 I had, it ended up full of low/high contrast areas

I have a K3 with a s16 gate and M42 (pentax screw mount) that I'll be listing in ebay soon (very cheap start) as a part of my gradual move to 35mm. As mentioned, the wide angle lenses originally made for 16mm and the meteor lens that generally comes with it (if zooming bellow 20mm) will not cover the whole area of the film, however, SLR lenses will (and do), I had no problems with the camera but I prefer the 4x3 than 16x9, just etheticaly. For a cheap super16 option, I'd recommend the k3. Modifications of kinors would cost >2500$ and you would loose the beautiful 6mm prime lens.

Hi all, I wanna buy a russian 35mm camera to shoot film with KS perforations. Would anyone know what would be the cheapest type of camera to look for? Is there a K-3 equivalent that uses 35mm film (e.g. spring driven camera)? thanks richard

Hi all, I 've read a post the other day about the ability of russian 35mm cameras to handle KS perforations (normal in still films), would I have a problem to telecine KS-perforated negatives? Cheers Richard

Hi, You could try to buy old stock. I recentely bought 2 rolls of 7247 and it looks very eighties. The person that sold me may have more rolls.

for the small fish, BW negs are good as than can easily be processed @ home.

Hi all, I have about 300m of negs (16mm) to take to telecine. Those are half color half bw. The bw I developed myself, spliced them together with cement and put white leader at the beginning and end of each roll (in thios case, they are simply rolled onto standard projection reels). As I also send some film to the lab (color), they came with a different leader and rolled in a core with an inner diameter (whole) of approx 2cm. Is that OK to take my film as is for telecine (or should I re-roll it in a similar core or get a similar leader)? Many thanks. Richard

I'll have to disagree with you here. The kinor produces 42db, this was post a while ago and this was posted (by another member) a while ago (sync with kinor): http://plaza.ufl.edu/ekubota/dialogue.mp4 I am working in a project now and all the dialogues are recorded while I am filming in sync. No way a K3 would be able to do it. Also, magazine loading cannot be simpler than the kinor but as we say in brasil, gosto e igual cu, cada um tem o seu.

That's very cool