Robert Houllahan

Yeah Andec is the only lab I know of making 8mm prints and to be clear I think they are only making prints from negative no intermediates for prints from reversal or print dupes. I think they slit and perf their own from 3383

P-M-A also supplies rollers for Allen processors. Each Processor manufacturer has or had slightly different roller designs. https://www.p-m-a.com/

Kodak still had 16mm mag in the catalog as of a few years ago, no longer there. I might have some at the lab I will look tomorrow.

This also but it was a print with sound that this was scanned from:

I shot this on 7222

Steve said there are some faint images it is not prepped and scanned yet. I think this was a roll of new very old stock that someone got and decided to give it a go at shooting it. Will probably put it on the Scan Station on Monday.

So in a rather strange twist we developed a roll of Kodacolor today. Developed. Kodacolor 1925-35

Here is a shot I am pretty proud of that I did with mine a few years back. I have to rescan this as the Xena scanner I scanned it on was in between some software updates and the GPU perf stabilization is not perfect. I had the PhotoSonics camera set to 460FPS for this.

You could try it in a Lomo tank but as Tyler said the ECN-1 Developer Part A and B are totally different as was the Bleach and Fix I believe. I can ask Bob Hum who worked at Cinelab and was running film in the early 1970's he would know more specifics but I think Kodak ECN-1 was being phased out by about 1970-71 with the transition to ECN2 happening fully by the mid 1970's The Kodak ECN-2 formulas are readily available and it is a CD-3 based developer you can search the reddit r/darkroom forums for people mixing from powder. I am not sure where to find the ECN-1 formulas they do not seem to be out online anywhere. ECN-1 was lower temp because the emulsion was less stable at higher temps and those stocks would turn back to jello at the 106F temp ECN-2 runs thus ECN-1 having more than twice the development time.

Looks like un-slit standard 8mm with half the needed perforations. how the hells? Maybe: On the LaserGraphics scanners I would try to load the advanced settings on the 16mm gate and then select ultra Standard 8mm setting. Then you could try an over-scan with the stabilization turned off. This might get you close to individual frames per frame scanned one side then go back and scan the other side?

B&W film stocks age very well I used some Plus-X 16mm negative which expired in 1965 on a music video for a friend's band in 2020 and it looked great, I rated it at 12iso and I think it was 40iso on the can. I would say that in general Plus-X reversal will look lower grain and nicer as Reversal if it is machine processed in a lab like ours. For a X-Process you would want to shoot a wedge sensi and process it to the gamma and density you want, there can be allot of variables in the look of the stock based on the way it is developed as a negative i.e. time and temp and how dense you want to make it.

Wow that is a cool looking camera!

The 2-flash is useful for allot of things and mostly gets sensor noise down and more detail in dense film so a reasonable cost for that feature and LaserGraphics has a staff of engineers and support people to feed. Tommy at Colorlab has a background in software and Colorlab probably sees more of that Kodacolor film than anyone with their proximity to the national archive so it was likely worth it for him to develop it. It is pretty problematic as Perry said with defining the little squashed lenses from so long ago and there is so little of this kind of film in circulation.

I have two model C Bell&Howell printers (one 35mm and one 16mm) and a Producers Service computer controlled optical printer at Cinelab in New Bedford about 45min south of Boston, c'mon down if you want to see them. I made prints on the 16mm printer today.

I have scanned some Kodacolor jobs and sent them to Tom at Colorlab for him to process, his GPU based software works and the results are certainly a mixed bag. Kodacolor was a terrible color process and was made far worse by years of being squished so the lenticular stripes became flat. At best it is a low res color image with lines and at worst it is a low res B&W image with lines when the processing does not quite see the stripes, I am sure Tom has improved it over time as it has been a few years since I have seen any7 Kodacolor come into the lab.