Robert Houllahan

Nope no connection.

VNF really cannot be run in a linear E6 machine we always do a X-Process in ECN2 for VNF,

We do them but honestly if you want to use or sell the stock I would not bother. If you have a production that expects it to be perfect you or they should / would buy fresh stock. Expired stock is great for music vids or ad work that wants more texture. I shot a MV for my friends and used a can of 16mm Plus-X negative that expired in 1962 and it looked fantastic. We are running a bunch of VNF 16mm as X-Process in ECN now for a pretty serious film that the DP wants the specific look for and it can look amazing with the right touch and that stock is quite expired indeed.

It is fussy to run and E6 chemistry is more complex and gets exhausted faster than ECN so all around it is a miracle that we even have Ektachrome is 2022.

Ten years is really not all that old and if you figure overexposing a stop per decade the stock should be in ok shape. Also people do like aged stock for certain types of work as it will have more texture.

Hey what exactly is the point of this? Can this be kept to a specific area of optical sound and not go all over the place? Its a million posts now. it seems that there are a few ways to approach optical sound recording. 1. analog semi free run D to A i.e. the subject header. 2. Analog with sync to an encoder so analog data can be correlated to run of the capstan. 3. Digitizing with picture taking imager (AEO) 4. Digitizing with a separate track reading camera. not to diminish the possibilities of optical analog sound but if wow and flutter can be eliminated 3/4 of these the approaches all seem like they are workable depending on the amount of post work to be done. ymmv

https://dft-film.com/products/oxscan14k/ Uses either the 12K or 14K Sony Pregius 16bit CMOS sensor in Monochrome and RGB IR Sequential illumination. It uses Oxberry 65mm / 70mm Pin Registered gates and Sprockets.

Nobody should ever think that an Arri product is going to be a "cheap" purchase... new at least. The Arri gates are a tremendous piece of machining work and that is reflected in the cost. The $370 plate is basically a kind of split reel to keep the soft film wound on the supply and takeup it is not in any way related to the gate. The Arriscan is a really well built exceptionally high quality true RGB scanner but it is not for every workflow and it is certainly not fast nor is it inexpensive.

SGI was an amazing company that built some really way out ahead computers back when that was a thing, in some pretty cool cases.

Ha... no my Aaton is MY Aaton..... U Kan Not Haz. Some of these have SDI Video I/O even....

Sometimes dream do come true… ill scoot you one of these once I figure out which run and which don't…

Quite a few camera manufacturers had a specific cutout which identified what kind of camera it was, this cutout is likely one of those. Somewhere I have a chart with about a dozen different outside the gate cutouts and which cameras were associated with them.

I would think that the motor and control electronics have made leaps and bounds in progress since the fleet of Imax cameras were built and they can probably use some really nice new controllers from a company like Galil Motion Control which would reduce the footprint of the electronics considerably.

We are running a high profile spot for Hermes today that was shot on 16mm 500t rated as 320t without an 85 - this was on the cans that came in today. I assume they used some ND will see when it goes on the Arriscan..

There are two ways to really do this... 1. A sound speed crystal locked capstan that will give consistent sync results from analog capture with no wow or flutter. This is how it has been done with telecine and resolvers like the MagnaTech for years. 1. A digitizer like a Nat Instruments card that treats the incoming audio as data and then a servo capstan with a high resolution quadrature encoder that the scanner system can correlate pulses per frame to the incoming audio data to keep them in sync and matched to the proper resultant frame rate at whatever scan speed the scanner is running at. Xena Scan Station and Kinetta do the latter I believe, so they can scan and digitize audio at any scan frame rate.

I think you meant to say it was the only way before we had digital scanners and tools. Liquid gate is like any other tool it has it's applications benefits and drawbacks. And yes it only fixes base scratches.

Last year we developed some EXR ECN film for a museum that was shot in 83-84 and most of it turned out remarkably well. We also see older 50D semi regularly at the lab and it holds up ok when shot with the age in mind. Expired film stocks can and do look great and you can get a look from them that you otherwise would not be able to, but they will have more grain and some anomalies. For example almost all the Fuji we still see come in has issues with the Rem-Jet backing staying on the film to some degree.

It does.

Perc is pumped into the chamber with some and vacuumed out with others both before and after the gate chamber. The liquid is continuously circulated by the wet gate support system. Similar to a ACME or Oxberry liquid gate and the chamber has enough height to keep the optical glass out of the imaging plane. Can run at 5-7 fps with enough time for the little amount of perc to dry before the capstan with some active air venting / vacuum.

$1k/gal stuff I have seen and the containers, 3M makes it. Like HFE for the Lipsner cleaners but different viscosity and RI.

Perc with a vent hood. otherwise your looking at some of the extremely expensive “engineered fluids” that Arri and DFT use.

There was a sponge / roller based wet gate for the Rank/Cintel telecine which used Tric then Perc. So Perc should work, not sure if you can use that in Cali. Here is a Xena 16mm liquid gate:

I believe the usual cost of support on just about any capital machine is about 10% of the new cost annually, so probably $20k for a full Scan Station. Cinelab has processed and scanned 50,000ft of various film stocks in a day before. Not every day. 8-10,000ft a day when busy is pretty easy to do but it will hardly yield CitationX and Konegsegg money after overhead and all.

Here is a pic of the Scannity liquid chamber:

Inside: