Angeliki Makraki

What are the prices these days, per day, for a still photographer on a movie set ? Or if you are a whole month, would you give a fixed price of let's say $5,000 for the job, according to the rights.

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From what they say at Cannes, Paranoid Park is a superior film in every way. Don't know when it's coming out here in Europe. Will be interesting to compare it to Elephant.

Have you ever been ? Hey, I hear that Gus Van Sant's new movie is superior to Elephant in every way.

There were even priests speaking in Greek ! In the movie, not the theatre.

I saw the avant-premiere of Gus Van Sant's Mala Noche here in Athens last Friday. It was playing Microcosmos on Singrou. Nice little black box theatre. I was the only one there except for the friends I dragged along. I've been wanting to see it for quite some time now, since many consider it to be his best film. Repetitious but interesting cinematography by Bill Campbell (never heard of him) Light coming out of darkness.

my dictionary says : sop |säp| noun 1 a thing given or done as a concession of no great value to appease someone whose main concerns or demands are not being met : my agent telephones as a sop but never finds me work. 2 a piece of bread dipped in gravy, soup, or sauce. verb ( sopped , sopping ) [ trans. ] ( sop something up) soak up liquid using an absorbent substance : he used some bread to sop up the sauce. ? wet thoroughly; soak. ORIGIN Old English soppian [dip (bread) in liquid,] sopp (noun), probably from the base of Old English s?pan [sup.] Sense 1 (mid 17th cent.) alludes to the sop used by Aeneas on his visit to Hades to appease Cerberus. That's why I didn't get it !

What is a sop ?

What about films that are out there now. I can think of right away : ( because I've seen them recently) Ulrich Mühe in The Lives of Others Natalie Portman and Javier Bardem in Goya's Ghosts A lot of people mentioned Anthony Hopkins. I liked him as a young actor in Elephant Man. And he does get better as he matures... As far as seventies movies go Gene Hackman played very well in French Connection. He was also as good as Muhe in the Conversation.

I too was wondering where the Hollywood films fit in, but, surprisingly enough in 1983, Costa-Gavras won, for Missing, even though Z was a livelier film !

WOW, do you believe all the big names all competing against each other at Cannes this year. Wong Kar Wai, Kim Ki-duk, James Gray, David Fincher, Gus Van Sant, Bela Tarr, Emir Kusturica, Catherine Breillat, Alexander Sokurov, The Cohen Brothers, Quentin Tarrantino and more people I've never heard of. Who do you think will win ? I haven't seen a lot of these movies, yet.

His Girl Friday was a good BW movie from the 40's, although it's known more for it's rapid fire dialogue. One jail scene was lifted by the director of Silence of the Lambs, Jonathan Demme.

Was Stalker in Black and White ? We forgot Max Ophuls.. more for the camera movement than the fact that they were in Black and White.

what are some other good 60 + 70's movies

A very good movie. Very moving. I would also add Bela Tarr's films. Satan's Tango Damnation, etc....

Not sure !

Jonathan, what do you call that type of bright white light coming from the upper left ? That is what bothered me.

I got dizzy from watching Letters from Iwo Jima. I don't know if it was the theatre I saw it in or the Greek subtitles that where white on white, but I left after an hour. The lighting really bothered me.

I like the gritty feel of grain on film but not so sure about digital noise yet. Thank you everyone for all your responses.

Would someone please explain how grain in Film compares to Noise in Digital ? Let's say I shoot a high- speed film for the effect and grain, is it equivalent to shooting with an inferior digital camera for the noise ?

Have you seen the French Connection ? A lot livelier and more real than Zodiac. I loved seeing it again. It reminds of Costa-Gavras Z. Hollywood seems so stilted and everything too perfect compared to this movie, which looks like a real documentary.

Here is Claudio himself talking, on Benjamin Button's Viper Workflow. I posted it in the wrong place yesterday : http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/technique/7847.html

There is a very good article in today's Film and Video on Claudio Miranda's new film. http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/cu...issue/7847.html Good questions and some good answers. They don't even look at dailies. Just color correct on the computer.

Robert, I started this topic because I thought we would be talking about the cinematography in Zodiac. It is obvious that you are a director or something, and look at, other things, than I do. The dramatic scenes (ie; basement, Gyllenhaul) did not move me in anyway. The fact that were overly dramatic made me respect them less. Being a photographer, for me, what is memorable about the movie are the three scenes Lee described in the Village Voice article, and, the opening, with the fireworks and the gliding car, which I wish had been longer.

You have two good points there, Robert. I wanted to identify with Melanie, but her character was so insultingly marginalized that there wasn't much to see. I thought that as the more intelligent one she would have a role more as his partner and not just "the girlfriend and wife". We didn't even see one moment of intimacy with them, but like you say, this is not Fincher's forte. ( We'll see what happens with Benjamin Button) Maybe that was the screenplay. Also the directors in Hollywood have to deal with producers that might pressure them to not to give enough time for a scene to play out. But, the movie is what it is, maybe it will be a dim memory for us by the end of the month, but as a police procedural, I liked it. In Greece, I read the Inspector Haritos Mysteries and although Petros Markaris has also written some great literature, this series are like true crime novels. I like them....I read them for fun. I'll write more later, when I have more time.