Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Also because I'd like to hear people from IBC... Were you there Emanuel?
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Also because I'd like to hear people from IBC... Were you there Emanuel? Unfortunately, I wasn't.
Premium Member Tim Terner Posted September 13, 2006 Premium Member Posted September 13, 2006 A lot of unneeded scepticism for his camera probably wasn?t the only reason for Jim Jannards exit from this forum
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Me neither. But I'm waiting for people of my family from there. Maybe they have some good news. But sadly, I already know they didn't watch the famous footage. Did you know anyone who did it?
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 A lot of unneeded scepticism for his camera probably wasn?t the only reason for Jim Jannards exit from this forumFor sure! But on-topic...Me neither. But I'm waiting for people of my family from there. Maybe they have some good news. But sadly, I already know they didn't watch the famous footage. Did you know anyone who did it?@dvxuser.com there are some reviews on that. Mikko Wilson (IBC correspondent) posted those images from RED as the highest quality images he has ever seen. With incredible dynamic range. There was who said something around up to 15 f-stops.
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Do you have any news on the delivery?
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Do you have any news on the delivery?Early 2007. Jim posted here: «We have also said that our TARGET is to assemble the 1st camera (non-production) in Dec. and our TARGET is to ship early 2007. Early can be as late as April in our minds.»
Tomas Koolhaas Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 What a rant! I asked, I typed "or" (three hypothesis, okay?), yes that's my opinion (why? isn't it allowed?), this guy called Jacoby has been what he has been when he writes what he writes. Your mistake: I wasn't politically correct! You are when you are allowing his silly posts totally off-topic when he isn't posting against red camera being Jim Murdoch's apprentice. Hi, Whatever, I'm done with this topic, don't throw around slanderous terms for effect, it's not wise. And BTW asking a rhetorical question is the same as stating something directly eg: If I asked you "Are you a prick?" it would be no different from me saying "you are a prick!" just a little more cowardly. Also, I never agreed with Max Jacoby about anything on this thread, I was responding specifically to your careless insinuation that Max was Racist (not a term ever to be used carelessly). Later....enjoy your silly little slanging match.
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Hi,Whatever, I'm done with this topic, don't throw around slanderous terms for effect, it's not wise. And BTW asking a rhetorical question is the same as stating something directly eg: If I asked you "Are you a prick?" it would be no different from me saying "you are a prick!" just a little more cowardly. It wasn't my intention but who cares? Also, I never agreed with Max Jacoby about anything on this thread Agreed. I was responding specifically to your careless insinuation that Max was Racist (not a term ever to be used carelessly).Later....enjoy your silly little slanging match. I'm out. But I wasn't the first one to think the same on the issue: http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/in...1&hl=racism And I just asked. One, two and in a three different directions.
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Have you an idea how many reservations were done?
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Have you an idea how many reservations were done?Around 500 I believe.
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Correct. But after IBC?I dunno. You must ask to Jim.
Premium Member Guest User Posted September 13, 2006 Premium Member Posted September 13, 2006 There was who said something around up to 15 f-stops. That figure is a complete guesswork by an outside viewer of the footage and there is no evidence to support it. Jim himself has said in another discussion in this very subforum that no one measured the stop range of the shot in question and that he does not want to make claims yet about the latitude of the camera. I would encourage anyone to read the thread in question before repeating any claims that are not based on facts.
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 That figure is a complete guesswork by an outside viewer Exactly.
Premium Member Matthew W. Phillips Posted September 13, 2006 Premium Member Posted September 13, 2006 That figure is a complete guesswork by an outside viewer of the footage and there is no evidence to support it. Jim himself has said in another discussion in this very subforum that no one measured the stop range of the shot in question and that he does not want to make claims yet about the latitude of the camera. I would encourage anyone to read the thread in question before repeating any claims that are not based on facts. On the video for IBC, a rep did indeed say that RED was holding detail with a light 15 stops hotter than the subject without blow out. I am extremely skeptical of that.
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 All what I've been reading on this red camera from the credible viewers at HD 4 Indies, Dvxuser, Dvinfo it gives that information. "That figure is a complete guesswork by an outside viewer." The world is outside where there isn't one only thread. There are several of them saying the same. Here are the facts.
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 All what I've been reading on this red camera from the credible viewers at HD 4 Indies, Dvxuser, Dvinfo it gives that information. "That figure is a complete guesswork by an outside viewer." The world is outside where there isn't one only thread. There are several of them saying the same. Here are the facts. Go ahead soldier! ;)
Greg Lowry Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 (edited) All what I've been reading on this red camera from the credible viewers at HD 4 Indies, Dvxuser, Dvinfo it gives that information. "That figure is a complete guesswork by an outside viewer." The world is outside where there isn't one only thread. There are several of them saying the same. Here are the facts. There are no "facts" about the dynamic range of the sensor other than this: Jim Jannard himself says that the dynamic range of the sensor has not yet been measured and that RED intends to do further testing and tweaking after IBC. He also says that the reports from IBC about the dynamic range are speculation. Why do you choose to believe HD for Indies, DVXuser and DVinfo over the head of the company? Edited September 13, 2006 by Greg Lowry
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 :) Go ahead soldier! ;):) There are no "facts" about the dynamic range of the sensor other than this: Jim Jannard himself says that the dynamic range of the sensor has not yet been measured and that RED intends to do further testing and tweaking after IBC. He also says that the reports from IBC about the dynamic range are speculation. Why do you choose to believe HD for Indies, DVXuser and DVinfo over the head of the company?I'm a latin native, I'm a believer... :lol:cheers Seriously, on the other hand I read there interesting stuff. And that Curtis, wow he knows what he's talking about. Very honest. By the way, this is yours: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=73528 Great info. Thank you.
Emanuel A Guedes Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=73528 Great info. Thank you. Yes, indeed. It's true. That is one of my favorite threads @dvinfo.net. Greg Lowry is an unique poster there and @dvxuser.com, as well.
Patrizio De Sica Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 It was a great find, Emanuel. Thank you again.
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