RED frame grabs...

[Jim Jannard]

There are a few frame grabs from the footage shown at IBC on the RED website. Shot 24 fps at 1/48th sec and around f4.

 

Jim

[Stephen Williams]

There are a few frame grabs from the footage shown at IBC on the RED website. Shot 24 fps at 1/48th sec and around f4.

 

Jim

 

Jim,

 

I think the cigar shot is fantastic!

 

Stephen

[David Sweetman]

But what kind of stogie is it?

 

That's a 2k blonde in the porsche shot isn't it? What other lights were used in the setup? It is very impressive how both the black flag and the light itself hold detail.

 

Amazing photos indeed. I wish I could see it in motion. Next you'll have to take meter readings, I'm dying for that information!

[John Holland]

Very nice women . a bit tacky . John Holland ,London

[John Holland]

But what kind of stogie is it?

 

That's a 2k blonde in the porsche shot isn't it? What other lights were used in the setup? It is very impressive how both the black flag and the light itself hold detail.

 

Amazing photos indeed. I wish I could see it in motion. Next you'll have to take meter readings, I'm dying for that information!

What is the blonde lighting ? the shot as in most studio car shots are top soft lit . John Holland ,London.

[Keith Mottram]

I dont mean to be rude, but a shot of two page 3 girls smoking a cigar and a flash sports car (filmed with a camera that looks like a gun)... its all a little bit eighties isn't it?

 

keith

[jan von krogh]

I dont mean to be rude, but a shot of two page 3 girls smoking a cigar and a flash sports car (filmed with a camera that looks like a gun)... its all a little bit eighties isn't it?

 

keith

I dont mean to be rude, but i enjoyed girls, smoking a cigar, and a flash sports car not only in the eighties.

 

camera, concept, imagequality (saw them on 4K projection at IBC06) and businessmodel are rather 2010, imho.

[Matthew W. Phillips]

well jim, with that shot of the ladies, you at least proved it isnt CGI footage. CGI doesnt make ladies that look that good. Looks great Jim, just need to make sure us poor folks can afford it.

[timHealy]

I always thought digital photography has emulated film very well, so as a still image it looks great. But like David, I really want to see how it handles motion before I give it a thumbs up or down.

 

best

 

Tim

[Tomas Koolhaas]

Hi,

These shots look good but I for one would like to see examples with more contrasty lighting, maybe a face sidelit by a window, which is also in frame. This may be more useful in showing the kind of scenarios we will face on day-to day shoots.

Cheers.

[Josh Bass]

I find the comment about the images being "out of the eighties" very offensive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those girls are clearly from a phone sex commercial circa 1991

[Emanuel A Guedes]

Superb !

[Guest spieden]

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Edited September 23, 2006 by spieden

[Jim Jannard]

We are a garage operation and had three days to shoot something to get ready for IBC. We can handle the 1980's comments. We are building a camera, not trying to raise funds for a movie. We have just posted the 1st 2k image. It is interesting because it captures that "instant". Please note the noise levels (or lack thereof). And the "hand" that certainly does NOT smack of video. A 4k version (8-bit jpeg) will be posted tomorrow.

 

http://red.com/gallery-still.htm

 

Jim

[Tim Terner]

Captures look great. I don't think getting contrasty shots will be a problem judging by these images.

 

What lens were you using Jim ?

[Jim Jannard]

This was shot with a Cooke 65mm S4. We really like the Cooke primes.

 

Jim

[Deanan DaSilva]

A 4k version (8-bit jpeg) will be posted tomorrow.

 

Hi Jim,

 

A 10 or 12 bit or tiff dpx would be more appropriate, no?

 

Just wondering, if you're rating your camera at 100 or 160 asa, wouldn't you expect a noise free image from any decent sensor? I would guess that 160asa is a fairly conservative rating in favor of shadow detail and less noise. It would be intresting to know what your range you think the sensor would be useful for (ie. how far can you push it before the noise becomes too apparent and starts popping the patterns). You can sort of guess by gaining up the jpeg but it would be a very crude guess. (and obviously it's too early to be meaningful because alot of things will be different once it's actually a shipping product).

 

BTW, have you shot with the MasterPrimes yet? They lean more towards the Cooke's warmth than the UltraPrimes and they hold sharpness really well out to the edges. I'm a bit suprised with the falloff at T1.3 though (although, I have to say as a personal preference I really like the falloff at F1 on the Noctilux).

 

 

Cheers,

 

Deanan

[Jim Jannard]

Deanan... we haven't shot the Ultra Primes yet. Got a set you want to lend us?

 

We'll post 12-bit tiffs pretty soon. Remember, we are still a few months out from shipping. ISO is a very tricky subject. We are playing it on the conservative side until we do more testing. Our sensor turned on for the 1st time about 4 weeks ago. And we spent a lot of time getting ready for, and attending, IBC. We are now back on the development track. By showing "work in progress" it is easy to assume we are done. We are not. The images we have posted don't even have dead pixel correction. We'd like to get a few more things done before we post full 4k images that will be under a microscope.

 

Jim

Edited September 23, 2006 by Jim Jannard

[Deanan DaSilva]

Deanan... we haven't shot the Ultra Primes yet. Got a set you want to lend us?

 

We'll post 12-bit tiffs pretty soon. Remember, we are still a few months out from shipping. ISO is a very tricky subject. We are playing it on the conservative side until we do more testing. Our sensor turned on for the 1st time about 4 weeks ago. And we spent a lot of time getting ready for, and attending, IBC. We are now back on the development track. By showing "work in progress" it is easy to assume we are done. We are not. The images we have posted don't even have dead pixel correction. We'd like to get a few more things done before we post full 4k images that will be under a microscope.

 

Jim

 

 

I think people are already putting you under the microscope and while jpegs may say don't put

me under a microscope, people are already putting the jpegs through torture and making assumptions

based on an 8 bit image.

 

Cheers,

 

Deanan

[Guest]

Holy smokes those look like video! Not even remotely close to the look of 35mm. I mean they look "good" as in the same as what you'd expect from a digital stills camera, but nothing like a "feature film."

 

Question: on the Red home page there appears to be smoke coming out of the Red camera. Is this what one can expect when they start using it, spontaneous camera combustion?

 

R,

[Timothy Brown]

Holy smokes those look like video! Not even remotely close to the look of 35mm. I mean they look "good" as in the same as what you'd expect from a digital stills camera, but nothing like a "feature film."

 

Question: on the Red home page there appears to be smoke coming out of the Red camera. Is this what one can expect when they start using it, spontaneous camera combustion?

 

R,

 

I'm sure if you were to add a bit of grain, they would certainly have the "feel" of film as everything else seems to be there.

[mattuhry]

Hey Jim and the rest of the Red Team,

 

These images look amazing to me. I'm a working DP shooting Commercials and Music Videos ( and the odd feature too ) in mostly working in 35mm and a occaisonally little HD and Viper. The latitude that is evident in these Jpegs is amazing as is the lack of noise. those are the holy grails of imaging as far as I am concerned ( to capture clean, wide latitude images which I can color electronically ). I can add contrast or grain should I desire. The fleshtones are a little off, but it's early and you are still nailing the lut's. It's silly to pick these apart at this point

 

Anyway, good Job and I am thrilled with the progress

 

I have lots of thoughts on how the ergonomics, EVF and other bits of the camera should work and would be interested and happy to take part in those discussions, and perhaps have some suggestions in creating the next round of test footage.

 

Matt Uhry DP, LA

www.fuzby.com

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[Matthew W. Phillips]

Holy smokes those look like video! Not even remotely close to the look of 35mm. I mean they look "good" as in the same as what you'd expect from a digital stills camera, but nothing like a "feature film."

 

Question: on the Red home page there appears to be smoke coming out of the Red camera. Is this what one can expect when they start using it, spontaneous camera combustion?

 

R,

 

Good grief Richard, I am rolling over here from laughing so hard. I was wondering when my film mate would pay a visit here and make a comment. We may not agree on Steve Irwin but with this, i have your back entirely. The images look great, but nothing like 35mm. Also, the images prove that we could use black as a set background if we wanted to.

Edited September 24, 2006 by Matthew W. Phillips

[Guest]

Good grief Richard, I am rolling over here from laughing so hard. I was wondering when my film mate would pay a visit here and make a comment. We may not agree on Steve Irwin but with this, i have your back entirely. The images look great, but nothing like 35mm. Also, the images prove that we could use black as a set background if we wanted to.

 

Ooooooook, but I'm not 100% sure if you're saying that you really are in agreement with me here, or not?

 

What is confusing me is when you say "I am rolling over here from laughing so hard."

 

Maybe I should post some 35mm frame grabs so that people can see what I mean when I say, "not like 35mm."

 

The other confusing thing about Red while we're on this topic is....is Red designed to look like 35mm in the first place? Or is it for a completely different market? I mean is Red expecting er, The Sopranos, & CSI, to use Red instead of 35mm?

 

R,

[Patrizio De Sica]

Also, the images prove that we could use black as a set background if we wanted to.

:D