Gavin Greenwalt Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 "The RED Mysterium sensor has finally pushed digital acquisition past the timeless 35mm film barrier in resolution and clean color fidelity". David Stump, ASC Any chance we can get a more detailed analysis and impression? While the quote is definitely a positive response, it doesn't really answer too many technical questions. Also, will any Tiffs or DPX files be released from these tests? - Gavin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Goldberg Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 (edited) Bold statement. It gets me more siked for Red, and to see what it can do, and how I can use it. I, as well, would like to get some information about this analysis. -Matt Edited November 9, 2006 by Matt Goldberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Correia Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Apparently - Stump will be posting an more indepth analysis and results on cinematography.net - that information coming from a Jannard post on dvxuser.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Bass Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I foresee much flaming in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 What is a RED ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 "The RED Mysterium sensor has finally pushed digital acquisition past the timeless 35mm film barrier in resolution and clean color fidelity". David Stump, ASC Any chance we can get a more detailed analysis and impression? While the quote is definitely a positive response, it doesn't really answer too many technical questions. Also, will any Tiffs or DPX files be released from these tests? - Gavin News flash, this just in.....David Stump, ASC has just announced his retirement from film. He has suddenly come into a very large sum of money and will be living full time in his new masion in the Bahamas. R, What is a RED ? Matthew please....there are only 500 hundred or more posts on Red on this very forum. You're telling me you can't answer this question on your own? Or do a Google search at the very least? R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dudley Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 News flash, this just in.....David Stump, ASC has just announced his retirement from film. He has suddenly come into a very large sum of money and will be living full time in his new masion in the Bahamas. R, Matthew please....there are only 500 hundred or more posts on Red on this very forum. You're telling me you can't answer this question on your own? Or do a Google search at the very least? R, I think or hope he was joking... Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Bonomo Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 "The RED Mysterium sensor has finally pushed digital acquisition past the timeless 35mm film barrier in resolution and clean color fidelity". David Stump, ASC ..after ONE green screen shot. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sweetman Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) News flash, this just in.....David Stump, ASC has just announced his retirement from film. He has suddenly come into a very large sum of money and will be living full time in his new masion in the Bahamas. Are you serious, or is this a joke? That's some kind of allegation to be tossing around without either proof or the immediate admission or indication that it is a joke. Oh and matt, check out www.red.com Edited November 10, 2006 by David Sweetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Are you serious, or is this a joke? That's some kind of allegation to be tossing around without either proof or the immediate admission or indication that it is a joke. Oh and matt, check out www.red.com You really need to be told it's a joke? When I use 1930s radio news language and things like, "mansion in the Bahamas." I have some property in New Orleans I want to show you :) R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Nikishin Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 There will always be pessimists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sweetman Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) You really need to be told it's a joke? The second sentence is obviously jest, but the first is stated as fact, and could either be or not be fact regardless of its attendant remark. I guess it rubbed me the wrong way because because it attacked Mr. Stump's integrity and character. Edited November 10, 2006 by David Sweetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Peploe Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'm looking forward to what the footage looks like and I find these little reviews they release funny. Its like those quotes used in movie ads. You gotta smile at them because its niether true nor false without more information. I liked this quote also posted on dvxuser by cheerleader/employee? JarRed. It made me laugh a long while. "personally i think the reservation holders have gotten it pretty good already.. with redcine and the monitor and these screenings etc.. not to obviously mention the fact they are giving us a $200,000 camera for less than $20,000" ___________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 The second sentence is obviously jest, but the first is stated as fact, and could either be or not be fact regardless of its attendant remark. I guess it rubbed me the wrong way because because it attacked Mr. Stump's integrity and character. I'm sure Mr. Stump would get a good laugh out of it. Even if he was on the Red payroll as a paid endorser, they would not pay him any thing close to what it would take to buy a mansion in the Bahamas. This makes it ridiculous to believe. DPs are always making jokes about their compensation, even in the best of times. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrizio De Sica Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Let the jokes away "sweet" Richard. Michael said all: I'm a Red supporter (and I keep a reservation) but it is dangerous, however, to label some of this people like a group of jerks. Sometimes these opinion makers lose a part of their good sense when all the people (there) are kissing his ass (being the man in charge... more than that, God gave him the mission). Acting themselves... himself like a God but without the same wisdom. His (cheerleader/employee) message is: buy it don't matter the price! Like Jannard is doing a favor to all this community when he sells $17,500 instead $200,000. :wacko: They should think: these people ain't smart people. If not, why would they be here? Listening someone with something to tell especially his own experience as a webmaster?! :lol: A bad move, Mr. Dvxuser. :blink: Jannard is a business man, not a charity! Why would he have such price if he wouldn't count 1073 reservations as far as we know? And if the lambs are following the flutist because it's a must to join the group, others are making clear and (more) comprehensible this (JarRed) point and its meaning: a bad point like it really is. It's so obvious: this is not the customers side! Shame on you Mr. Land, shame on you... Next time, do a favor to yourself and to the project. To us: Jannard included. Don't be more papist than the Pope! Just an opinion. From an :angry: unbiased user B). I'm looking forward to what the footage looks like and I find these little reviews they release funny. Its like those quotes used in movie ads. You gotta smile at them because its niether true nor false without more information. I liked this quote also posted on dvxuser by cheerleader/employee? JarRed. It made me laugh a long while. "personally i think the reservation holders have gotten it pretty good already.. with redcine and the monitor and these screenings etc.. not to obviously mention the fact they are giving us a $200,000 camera for less than $20,000" ___________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Patrizio De Sica, Thanks for your post, but I can't tell if you're a Red supporter or detractor? :blink: I'm neither. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan von krogh Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Thanks for your post, but I can't tell if you're a Red supporter or detractor? :blink: I'm neither. R, seems that this differentiates you from david stump. who, btw, would have no fiscal problem to retire to the bahamas without needing money from 3hrd parties anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Stephen Williams Posted November 10, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted November 10, 2006 seems that this differentiates you from david stump. who, btw, would have no fiscal problem to retire to the bahamas without needing money from 3hrd parties anyhow. Hi Jan, Do you know that for a fact? Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Schrengohst Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) Please check out some other forums and posts about the post end of RED. The RED creators have aknowledged they need to figure our a way to get REDCINE to other editors/post houses and other non-RED owners for the RED to have a greater impact. If you shoot film you could still in theory edit the film with razor blades if you need to. You want to see that film on an electronic display device you could transfer to a codec that your favorite editor uses. I am currently shooting with an HVX and P2. There are still detractors that cannot understand how you could shoot with a camera that can only record 4-10 minutes on a Flash card. FCP has a pretty good workflow for the HVX now. But you want to edit HVX footage on Vegas or Premiere?? It's possible but has workflow limitations. I think you can edit SI camera footage using Cineform and Premiere, what if I wanted to edit that footage with FCP.... On most productions the shooting may last one day or many months...the editing and post is where the most time is spent and this is the area that is the most intriguing when it come to the RED. So even if RED has surpassed 35MM film they must still be able to get the footage in some usable format for the greatest number of editors to use. Edited November 10, 2006 by Michael Schrengohst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Rodriguez Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 what if I wanted to edit that footage with FCP.... You use the quicktime version of CineForm RAW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Greenwalt Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 Please check out some other forums and posts about the post end of RED. The RED creators have aknowledged they need to figure our a way to get REDCINE to other editors/post houses and other non-RED owners for the RED to have a greater impact. If you shoot film you could still in theory edit the film with razor blades if you need to. You want to see that film on an electronic display device you could transfer to a codec that your favorite editor uses. I am currently shooting with an HVX and P2. There are still detractors that cannot understand how you could shoot with a camera that can only record 4-10 minutes on a Flash card. FCP has a pretty good workflow for the HVX now. But you want to edit HVX footage on Vegas or Premiere?? It's possible but has workflow limitations. I think you can edit SI camera footage using Cineform and Premiere, what if I wanted to edit that footage with FCP....On most productions the shooting may last one day or many months...the editing and post is where the most time is spent and this is the area that is the most intriguing when it come to the RED. So even if RED has surpassed 35MM film they must still be able to get the footage in some usable format for the greatest number of editors to use. This is where the RED team is head and shoulders above the asian electronics firms. I can't comment on the SI because I haven't spent as much time evaluating their post flow, but I know RED has been making incredible advances on their post workflow. Almost every single thing I have requested has now been confirmed as a feature of either REDcode or REDCine. The only two things I'm still waiting on are: Online EDL Summarization and a RedCine-CommandLine. (If you're listening Graeme, hint hint) - Gavin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Brown Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 You use the quicktime version of CineForm RAW :) Tha heck you say Jason. Stop teasing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Nattress Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 We were just talking about the command line version today. Can't say for definate, but we're very, very seriously looking into it. If you want to email me off-board, I'd be keen to hear your throughts of what you'd like in the app and how you'd use it. Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Schrengohst Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 You use the quicktime version of CineForm RAW :) Interesting, I will have to look into that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunleik Groven Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Some more on the testshot here: http://www.hdforindies.com/2006/11/exclusi...-stumps_10.html Gunleik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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