Michael Collier Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 http://www.rosco.com/uk/video/roscoview.asp Looks very very interesting. I can see it being useful in situations where outside there are large fast moving clouds and you anticipate a varying outside exposure, while your trying to maintain interior-through-the-glass exposure. Especially if its a long indoors shoot where you'd ND the windows anyway. Now if they release this in a combination with CTO, I am way down. Also I can see it being usefull for impresionistic effects/special effects. Has anyone used this gel yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted May 29, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted May 29, 2008 I've been dying to get my grubby hands on this as well; but i'm sure it's pretty expensive for the gel and the on camera filter :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayse Irvin ASC, CSC Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sharf Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 thats amazing! it looks like it could be really useful for day for night situations. The bottom picture with 90 % polarization, could be extremely helpful. good spot michael, i had no idea about this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael K Bergstrom Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Some quick facts on VIEW, it's only available on roll, it reduces light at a stop per layer, the viewing angle is about 65 degrees for it to work effectively, and it costs right around 100/foot for 56'x8". for that price, I think I'll stick with my ND. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Collier Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) 100 bucks a foot? doh. In that case, I will stick to a 4K Hmi and ND(For the price it might even be cost effective. I am sure I can convince my gaffer to drop or remove a scrim if the light outside changes.) Looked cool. but 5600/roll? no thanks. Rick Sharf- Bergstrom found it, emailed it to me and I posted it like its my idea. Then he comes on this board to nay-say the find he got. I will never understand that guy, but hes a genius at what he does, so I will let it slide. and only one stop? Surely that can't be right. Polarizers that are off axis are nearly 100% light loss, if they are true polas. What good could 0-1 stop variation be on set, given the cost. I am going to keep it in mind for special effects, and big budgets. *EDIT- after looking closer, its one stop loss through the camera filter. I am sure the gel goes opaque when the filter is fully off-axis. Edited May 30, 2008 by Michael Collier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Blows my mind. I actually had the thought a couple months ago that there had to be something like this out there. Glad to hear Rosco is staying at the forefront of gel technology. Now all I have to do is hope for a project where the script calls for an effect like this to be done in camera. Or at least something with the budget to buy a roll of the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Bartlett Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) Look like a lot of fun... cant wait to see some of the in camera voodoo and wizardry that people pull off with this stuff. Although with it being an expendable i doubt i can rent it and i certainly cant afford it, therefore none of said voodoo or wizardry will be on my part :( Edited May 30, 2008 by Ollie Bartlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael K Bergstrom Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Let me clarify on price, I don't know for sure, I haven't called Rosco or seen this for sale, but I've heard it's $800 for a roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted May 31, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted May 31, 2008 Anyone know why there is a special filter for it? Why not just use a 1-stop POLA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted May 31, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted May 31, 2008 my money's on Marketing. . . (for the special filter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Metzger Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Anyone know why there is a special filter for it? Why not just use a 1-stop POLA? Seems like you can put it on the windows (the gel), with the Pola filter on your camera, and you can dial the pola in varying degrees as needed. You don't need to use either, but they can both be on camera and on the window, ready to rock when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted June 1, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted June 1, 2008 Seems like you can put it on the windows (the gel), with the Pola filter on your camera, and you can dial the pola in varying degrees as needed. You don't need to use either, but they can both be on camera and on the window, ready to rock when needed. But my point is that the gel is just polarizer, so any old 1-stop pola would do the same thing as the special filter they're marketing for it. I guess, as Adrian said, that they're banking on a lot of people not noticing that and buying another 1-stop pola with the different name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Hoffler Posted June 7, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted June 7, 2008 that is awesome! too bad I am a broke student... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted June 7, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted June 7, 2008 GO get on some shoots, and you can pillage the gel scraps! That's how I started gathering up gels! I still have a few of those laying 'round; not that I'd want to use them for anything but uber-run/gun/throw it in my backpack type shoots. I've also made it a habit of giving away most of the gel scraps to anyone who I'm working with who wants/needs it. Hell, I don't need a 12x12 piece of 216 THAT badly; I have 2 whole rolls sitting at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerio Sacchetto Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 But my point is that the gel is just polarizer, so any old 1-stop pola would do the same thing as the special filter they're marketing for it. I guess, as Adrian said, that they're banking on a lot of people not noticing that and buying another 1-stop pola with the different name. This was exactly my thought! What's so revolutionary about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Madsen Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 What I don´t understand is how come the exposure doesn´t change as the dolly moves around the table. With a regular pola light is only polarized at a certain angle. Am I right or wrong? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Rodgar Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) Interesting. Kinda like putting two polarizer filters in front of the camera. I saw some footage that was shot accidentally like that when the AC forgot there was a pola in the mattebox and the unsuspecting DP put a second one in. Depending on the (changing) angle of the second pola shot after shot, the image changed from 1 stop under to two or more. The difference here being that the second pola is BEHIND the subject, so the foreground is not under exposed, only what is behind the gel, keeping what is between the filter and the gel properly exposed. I wonder if one would have to compensate for the first (on camera's) polarizer (the woman's exposure in this case). It seems logical that one would have to: A polarizer is a polarizer after all. Oh, by the way, the AC in question was fired when the DP realized the unintended dual pola filter action and he is not getting much AC action lately (hum, wonder why?) . . . Edited June 9, 2008 by Saul Rodgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Heckendorn Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I found a few prices from a UK site. http://www.lcauk.com/#/roscoview/4527949163 Looks like the roll is a bit over $900 (£480). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hayes Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I, for one, can?t wait to try it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Quite amazing its taking this long to this come on the market .[Wish i had thought of it] Its the same principle as used on animation stands for years polar filters on the two lamps and a photo polar round one in front of the camera lens mostly used to get rid of scratches from the artwork cells . Just think this could be really expensive to use on a big location . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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