Nicholas Kovats

Great to hear of this splendid singular exception, Glenn. But it sounds a tad unwieldy for handheld shooting. And probably just as loud as my own TXM crystal motor setups. Seth's web site is down but I managed to get a glimpse of his efforts via the Internet WayBack Machine, i.e. http://web.archive.org/web/20140517010332/http://americancinespec.com/

I see. Your original query was specific to Super 8 cameras not 16mm as I originally thought. That is incorrect info regarding interfacing the Tobin TXM-20Ba crystal sync motor with a Beaulieu 4008. It's physically impossible as the TXM-20Ba specifically makes use of the direct one-to-one drive shaft of the Bolex H16 16mm camera systems. The quietest sync sound "historical" Super 8 cam setup is the Braun NIzo 6080 with Film Group Camera Crystal Control Unit ($500 US). The CCCU does not generate any noise as it is solid state electronics and works in conjunction with the 1/fr per sec "digital" 1000hz tone generated by the 6080 PC connector on the camera. It serves as a digital feedback loop system whereby the camera motor self corrects speed variations referenced to the Film Group CCC time base, i.e. http://www.webtfg.com/sync8.htm Apparently the 6080 belt drive is one of the quietest cameras but good luck on finding one whereby you don't have to replace the 35-40 year old belts. I am concentrating on testing my Logmar Super 8 camera with 5 pin XLR stereo mic connector whereby it records sounds directly to an internal 24 bit digital recorder. The camera's direct drive motor is accurate to .001 fps thereby potentially lip sync accurate. Not the quietest camera but a bit of imaginative blimping should work just fine. The point being no external crystal control necessary as it it built right into the camera and it's firmware is upgradable.

The manual and specs are still available on Clive Tobin's web site. Clive no longer manufactures these units, i.e. http://www.tobincinemasystems.com/index_files/Page498.htmDuall Camera in New York still stocks new old stock Tobin motors, i.e. http://www.duallcamera.com/store/index_BatteriesChargers.shtml (look under crystal motors) They are not quiet and require a blimp for serious lip sync work. They show up time to time on eBay. I have both the TCS TXM-20B and 20Be versions. The Bolex becomes a whole different heavy loud beast when the motors are attached. I need to increase the battery capacity/amperage as they will not work in the slight cold. Good luck.

Jesse, I have replicated such a ghosting effect in my Bolex regarding film transport with b/w Orwo UN54 film stock. I ended up utilizing the footage for artistic purposes. The color portions are Kodak V50D color negative. Perforation quality? FIlm thickness? Same camera was used for both stocks. The transported Orwo appears to have a "sticky" quality to it. Some may point out I am comparing apples (Arri) with oranges (Bolex) regarding transport. C'est la vie. I hope this helps. Cheers!

Contact Mr. Bolex himself, Jean-Louis Seguin in Montreal. I suspect he would charge a very modest amount for your required screw, i.e. bolextech@gmail.com. I would not operate the Bolex transport for an extended period of time absent that screw. Nicholas

Richard, Please post your request to the Motion Picture Technology group on Facebook. Diehard analog heads who retain everything including obscure parts. Both you and Carl MUST post your efforts to resurrect the optically dead! Tremendous work.

Hi Cody, I do not have a definitive answer but should you be fine with the Schneider. It will be softer at large apertures (f1.8. 2.8, etc.) but should be fine at f5.6 and up. I suspect the image circle was designed to cover old school 1 inch "sensors" so it should provide good cover your Bolex 16mm camera. Which specific Bolex do you have? Here is a film I shot on my reflex Bolex UltraPan8 3.1 with a Carl Zeiss Jena Tevidon APO 10mm f2.0 C-mount lens with Bolex Bayonet adapter. This lens was originally meant to cover up to 1 inch CCTV cameras. Note that my C-Mount lens mount was not optimized for the extra wide gate of my camera and technically needed to be offset similar to a Super 16mm lens mount conversion. Cheers! Nicholas

Five years in the making. First I walked, then ran and finally put on my skates to "chase" cyclists on ice with my Bolex Ultrapan8 film camera. The Ice Bike or Icycle winter races have been a treasured staple in February for over 14 years. The "serious" heats involve handmade studded tires with a density of 500-800 studs per tire. The funnest part of the evening involves the public non-studded event called The Rubber Race. Come on join us at Icycle 2015 next weekend if you happen to be in Toronto! 7:00 pm Saturday on Febuary 21, i.e. https://www.facebook.com/events/754435797964839/. Albert "ice emperor" de Ciccio has kindly provided a how-to regarding the construction of the studded tires, i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpvTV3h2zI4. metadata: camera = Bolex UltraPan8 2.8 R8 camera_mod = Jean-Louis Seguin (bolextech@gmail.com) film_stock = Kodak Vision 3 200T 7213, pushed 3x stops (800 asa), full 16mm width of Regular 8mm, color negative (acetate) film_reperforation = Edward Nowill (edwardnowill@gmail.com) frame_rate = 24fps lens = Angenieux 5.9mm tstop = T2/4 lab = Niagara Custom Labs (niagaracustomlab.com) scan = bitworks.org

Five years in the making. First I walked, then ran and finally put on my skates to "chase" cyclists on ice with my Bolex Ultrapan8 film camera. The Ice Bike or Icycle winter races have been a treasured staple in February for over 14 years. The "serious" heats involve handmade studded tires with a density of 500-800 studs per tire. The funnest part of the evening involves the public non-studded event called The Rubber Race. Come on join us at Icycle 2015 next weekend if you happen to be in Toronto! 7:00 pm Saturday on Febuary 21, i.e. https://www.facebook.com/events/754435797964839/. Albert "ice emperor" de Ciccio has kindly provided a how-to regarding the construction of the studded tires, i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpvTV3h2zI4. metadata: camera = Bolex UltraPan8 2.8 R8 camera_mod = Jean-Louis Seguin (bolextech@gmail.com) film_stock = Kodak Vision 3 200T 7213, pushed 3x stops (800 asa), full 16mm width of Regular 8mm, color negative (acetate) film_reperforation = Edward Nowill (edwardnowill@gmail.com) frame_rate = 24fps lens = Angenieux 5.9mm tstop = T2/4 lab = Niagara Custom Labs (niagaracustomlab.com) scan = bitworks.org

Thanks, Carl. I overlooked the polyester spec. That's right. Edward can only reperf acetate based stock. However, I just found out yesterday that Wittner in Germany can reperf unperforated 35mm stock into 2R or 1R 16mm film. Minimum order appears to be be 1000 ft. They maybe able to handle the polyester as they are new machines.

Trevor Tweeten shot Richard Mosse'e "The Enclave (2013)" in 16mm color infrared using Arriflex 416 on Steadicam. Stock used was discontinued Kodak Aerochrome sold by this supplier, i.e. http://www.tarquinius.de/. He appears to have extinguished his supply and if memory serves correct had been selling 400ft 16mm rolls at $400/$500 and up. The making of "The Enclave" with sample infrared footage, i.e. http://vimeo.com/67115692 How serious is your question? It is not a trivial undertaking in this day and age of the Digital Illumanti. You could potentially contact Edward Nowill in the UK to slit and reperforate bulk 100 ft rolls of b/w infrared 35mm into double perf 16mm stock, i.e. Supplier: http://www.macodirect.de/films-blackwhite-films-35mm-bulk-films-rollei-rollei-infrared-400s-35mm-305m-p-402.html Film specs: http://www.digitaltruth.com/products/rollei_infrared.php Edward Nowill: edwardnowill@gmail.com Putney 32B Wadham Road, London, Greater London, UK SW15-2LR +44 20 8874 0069

Congratulations, Kip. Inspiring! Film has a beautiful quality albeit your focus on the tiny details of that fateful day. Gritty color.

Tommy Madsen of Logmar camera has sent me the exact Super 8 frame dimensions for the Logmar camera. I wish to compliment this camera with appropriate anamorphic systems to output both classic Cinemascope 2.40:1 and 16:9 (1.78:1) aspect ratios. The Super 8 frame spec is from http://www.gcmstudio.com/filmspecs/filmspecs.html Super-8 frame dimensions 1. Camera aperture size (H x W): 4.22 x 5.63mm 2. Frame area: 23.76sq. mm 3. Aspect ratio: 1.33:1 Logmar Super-8 frame dimensions: 1. Camera aperture size (H x W): 4.20 x 6.30mm 2. Frame area: 26.46sq. mm 3. Aspect ratio: 1.5:1 The Logmar camera gate represents approximately an 11 % increase in imaging area over the standard Super 8 1.33:1 frame. It's slightly more rectangular 1.5:1 frame approaches the classic aspect ratio of 16:9 (1.78:1). I have applied various anamorphic compression ratios as listed on this great Super 8 anamorphic adapter/lens page which provides a comprehensive listing of commonly available adapter/optics, i.e. http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Anamorphic_Lenses. This 1.5:1 frame spec will result in the following non-standard anamorphic widescreen aspect ratios, i.e. 1. Logmar 1.5:1 x 1.33x compression = 2.00:1 2. Logmar 1.5:1 x 1.42x compression = 2.13:1 3. Logmar 1.5:1 x 1.5x compression = 2.25:1 4. Logmar 1.5:1 x 1.75x compression = 2.63:1 5. Logmar 1.5:1 x 1.77x compression = 2.66:1 6. Logmar 1.5:1 x 1.9x compression = 2.85:1 7. Logmar 1.5:1 x 2.0x compression = 3.00:1 What is interesting to me is that the classic 1.75x and 2.0x compression ratios may intercut with my two larger UltraPan8 formats. i.e. 1. UltraPan8 2.8 R8: frame dimensions = 3.75 x 10.54mm (frame area = 39.53sq. mm) w/ aspect ratio = 2.8:1 2. UltraPan8 3.1 DS8: frame dimensions = 4.22 x 13.00mm (frame area = 54.86sq.mm) w/ aspect ratio = 3.1:1 I am looking forward to exploring the impact of the Logmar's Latham loop, digital motors and pin registered gate relative to the Bolex's pressure pad.

David, Edward Nowill in the UK can reperf single perf acetate base 16mm re: two perf. The source film can also be 4 perf 35mm stock if you wish. Cannot be polyester based. It will wreck his Debrie perf head. Cheap. Approximately 40 GBP per 400ft. edwardnowill@gmail.com +44 20 8874 0069 Putney 32B Wadham Road, London, Greater London, UK SW15-2LR

Projected US price for shipping cameras after completion of beta program is approximately $5,000.

Carl, Would a 4mm film format suffice? :) "http://www.super8data.com/database/articles_list/formato_m.htm ANEXO I I - John A. Maurer SMPTE Awards Presentations, Boxoffice (trade magazine devoted to motion picture exhibition), October 25 1971 - page 208 [...] John A. Maurer, president of Optronics Technology, Inc., was awarded the Eastman Kodak Gold Medal for 1971 by the Society. The Eastman Kodak Gold Medal Award was given to Maurer for his continuing work over 40 years in behalf of achieving the highest quality possible in the recording and reproduction of both the visual image and sound record for films 16mm and smaller format films. His research and development of techniques and his effort to take advantage of the theoretical limits of both materials and equipment as they developed have hastened, particularly in the early days, the acceptance of motion pictures in education and training. John A. Maurer was educated at Adelbert College and Western Reserve University and has an Honorary D.Sc. from Western Reserve. From 1929 to 1937 he was at RCA Research Laboratory where his work resulted in 17 U.S. patents. Further work on a system of double 4mm motion pictures with optical sound on 8mm film and on 35mm to 16mm optical reproduction and sound printers led, in 1934, to his jointing with Eric M. Berndt in founding the Berndt-Maurer Corp. to manufacture professional 16mm cameras and sound recording equipment. The 16mm recorders developed by this company and its successor, J. A. Maurer, Inc., established the standards of performance for the 16mm industry."

Whilst I respect my Super 8 colleagues prior experiences with S8S I have been only treated with prompt courtesy and professionalism regarding my forthcoming Logmar camera. I just received my official serial number via Tommy@Logamar and S8S.

Matt! I am sorry to hear of your imminent departure form the Super 8 scene. I am coming back! :)

Carl, I am quite sure it's ok to mention your incredible compatriot, Richard Tuohy. :)

Christopher Nolan on his preference for using motion picture film. His forthcoming film "Interstellar" is about to be pre-released on 15-perf 70mm (IMAX), 5-perf 70mm and 4 perf 35mm on Nov. 5, i.e "For the last 10 years, I've felt increasing pressure to stop shooting film and start shooting video, but I've never understood why. It's cheaper to work on film, it's far better looking, it’s the technology that's been known and understood for a hundred years, and it's extremely reliable. I think, truthfully, it boils down to the economic interest of manufacturers and [a production] industry that makes more money through change rather than through maintaining the status quo. We save a lot of money shooting on film and projecting film and not doing digital intermediates. In fact, I've never done a digital intermediate. Photochemically, you can time film with a good timer in three or four passes, which takes about 12 to 14 hours as opposed to seven or eight weeks in a DI suite. That’s the way everyone was doing it 10 years ago, and I've just carried on making films in the way that works best and waiting until there’s a good reason to change. But I haven't seen that reason yet." Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/in-contention/theater-owners-decry-christopher-nolans-interstellar-35mm-rollout-quentin-tarantino-calls-them-barbarianstheater-owners-decry-interstellar-35mm-rollout-as-tarantino-calls-them-barbarians#dp4jlriuEZM4BYj2.99 The 'hitfix' article references the original quote extracted from a lengthly interview with the Directors Guild of America (DGA), i.e.http://www.dga.org/craft/dgaq/all-articles/1202-spring-2012/dga-interview-christopher-nolan.aspx

You are one of the best handheld Super 8 cinematographers. Period.

Agreed. What stabilization software are you utilizing? By chance are you part of the Logmar Beat program?

Omar, I admire your optimism but your being a tad unrealistic and need to undertake a bit of research. Logmar's contact info is available on their website, i.e. http://www.logmar.dk/?page_id=2. They do respond to email but they are currently an operation of two engineers who are now very busy fabricating upwards of 35 beta cameras for potential shipping in December of this year. Good luck, NK

Very good! V50D color negative is a gorgeous stock!

Logmar Super 8 camera update from Tommy L. Madsen, CEO "September update Posted on September 25, 2014 by admin It’s been a while since our last post so I thought it would be a good gesture to give an update on where we are today and also how we are progressing. As you may have read the BETA program was a great success and sold out almost instantly and right now we have some 35 people on waiting list for the production cameras so it seems we’ll be busy well into 2015 so if you’re interested in purchasing a production camera once they are available it’s a good idea to contact either us if you are located in Europe or Asia or Pro8mm if you reside in USA, Mexico or Canada so that you can get on the waiting list. As a special surprise for the BETA customers we are also offering them a free upgrade to a 5-pin XLR giving them the option to use a stereo XLR phantom powered microphone or two mono phantom powered 3-pin XLR microphones together with the camera. (this upgrade is free of charge for the BETA customers and optional – so if you purchased a BETA camera and still want the original mono 3-pin XLR you can still get this) – We will be in contact with our BETA customers this week to inform them about this free upgrade possibility. We are currently laying the final touches on the electronics of the camera and we are about a week away from ordering the 95 specially milled metal parts from our metalwork subcontractors that makes up the camera body so we are still on schedule for December deliveries. If you are a BETA customer you should also have received your camera’s assigned serial number by post together with a certificate of ownership – if you haven’t please let us know if you haven’t received it by Friday next week. Once again thanks for all the supportive e-mails we’ve been receiving, the acknowledgements from other websites as well as a big round of applause to our BETA customers who helped make this camera a possibility through their purchase. Best regards /Tommy" http://www.logmar.dk/?p=327