Premium Member David Regan Posted December 12, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2007 Just saw this at an advance screening, I liked it for the most part, but as far as story goes felt it was a bit short. Visually I enjoyed it for the most part, the beginning was very warm toned, which I felt set things up nicely, and as the story progressed so did the color scheme. I don't know just how much of the film was CG and how much was built sets, but the scenic NY city shots felt nice. Speaking of CG, I can't be sure but the opening scene of him driving the car, really through me off, either the car was extremely well polished and cleaned for each take, or it was CG, it was just too 'sharp.' One question I had was about the blue flares that showed up frequently. They were a thin horizontal line, and I'm not sure what causes flares to look like that. Does it have to filters or lens coatings, or a particular type of lens? I noticed it was shot super35 but printed anamorphic, but I'm not familiar with that process so I don't know if it has anything to do with it. It was just something that I kept noticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Nachtrieb Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I believe a majority of the shots of the car were CG. I know someone who did locations for this movie over the summer and he happened to have some of the computer storyboarding on his laptop. Been waiting awhile to see this movie, big fan of The Last Man on Earth, just have never had the chance to read the novel. How did Smith do playing Neville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted December 12, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2007 It was shot with anamorphic lenses as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Max Jacoby Posted December 12, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2007 I suspect it's shot with a mix of Super 35 and anamorphic. One one hand I've seen some behind the scenes stills with an anamorphic 40mm CF Primo on the camera and in the trailer there are some anamorphic flares also, but on the other hand there are many night shots in the trailer that have spherical bokeh. Since these seem to be wide-angle CU handheld/steadicam shots, I don't think that an anamorphic zoom was used, hence my suspicion that they must have mixed formats. Looks like we'll have to wait for the new AC to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Been waiting awhile to see this movie, big fan of The Last Man on Earth, just have never had the chance to read the novel. Obviously The Omega Man is another one which used The Last Man on Earth as its starting point. It'll be interesting to see what new spin they put on the story this time 'round. OH WAIT, so apparently Smith's character's name is Robert Neville, just as Heston's was in Omega Man...so there you go :) Edited December 12, 2007 by Jonathan Bowerbank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Max Jacoby Posted December 12, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2007 Where does this 'The Last Man on Earth' come from? The film is based on the book 'I Am Legend' by Richard Matheson, as is 'The Omega Man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Where does this 'The Last Man on Earth' come from? The film is based on the book 'I Am Legend' by Richard Matheson, as is 'The Omega Man'. So was "The Last Man on Earth", co-scripted at one point by Matheson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted December 13, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 13, 2007 The new Cinefex to hit the newstands has an article on 'I am Legend" -- it says this about anamorphic: Efx Supervisor Janek Sirrs: "We knew this was going to be a very difficult matchmoving job, because nearly the entire movie was shot handheld and anamorphic, which is the most difficult matchmoving scenario you can imagine." "Anamorphic is an absolutely beautiful cinematographic tool, " added digital effects supervisor David Smith, "but it provided us with quite a bit of challenge in being able to track and matchmove the shots because it results in so much distortion, which changes as you move a camera through a scene. All of that distortion has to be dealt with before we could properly track the plates. There were a lot of smaller distortions within specific anamorphic lenses, and we had to deal with those aberrations, as well." Imageworks worked with Yannix Technologies to develop a proprietary tracking tool for anamorphic that concurrently addressed the lens distortion and camera track issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I wonder if some effects houses keep shortcut tools to make it easier to composite vfx into different shots, depending on what lens was used and to what degree the distortion is. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Workman Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 As for VFX and match-moving, slightly coming from that background: They definitely keep track of what millimeter the lense is, the tstop, lens height, focal distance, orientation etc. Thats why Cooke and has the lens data box, and Arri too. The better 3D tracking programs can figure out zooms etc. also. For compositing they also have built in grain match for various film stocks and processing. For something this high end they pull out Knoll/etc. to custom program build new ALG etc. Technology?! Same with Transformers and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruairi Robinson Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 As for VFX and match-moving, slightly coming from that background: They definitely keep track of what millimeter the lense is, the tstop, lens height, focal distance, orientation etc. Thats why Cooke and has the lens data box, and Arri too. The better 3D tracking programs can figure out zooms etc. also. For compositing they also have built in grain match for various film stocks and processing. For something this high end they pull out Knoll/etc. to custom program build new ALG etc. Technology?! Same with Transformers and the like. Knoll is woefully inadequate. I really wish they would update it significantly. You can always spot a knoll fake flare in movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will griffith Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 How did Smith do playing Neville? Won't be mentioned for an Oscar, but not many could have pulled it off. There has been a lot of critical comments about the movie itself, but none about Smith's performance. I kept comparing this movie to Castaway as I was watching it...and not just because he's on an island. :) There is a lot more action in Legend to give him a break, and I'm not saying he's Tom Hanks, but I think Smith has become more versatile. I mean come on... could Tom Hanks carry a sitcom, action comedy film, action drama, drama, and action suspense drama, etc. etc.? The movie is not perfect, but some of the suspense scene filming/editing.... WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timHealy Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) ... could Tom Hanks carry a sitcom, action comedy film, action drama, drama, and action suspense drama, etc. etc.? I don't mean to hijack the thread but: are you kidding? http://imdb.com/name/nm0000158/ Tom Hanks Overview Date of Birth:9 July 1956, Concord, California, USA more Mini Biography: Born in California, Tom Hanks grew up in what he calls a 'fractured' family... more Trivia: Married first wife Samantha Lewes (real name: Susan Dillingham) two months... more Awards: Won 2 Oscars. Another 47 wins & 49 nominations more Angels & Demons (2008) (in production) .... Robert Langdon Fahrenheit 451 (2009) (announced) (rumored) .... Guy Montag Boone's Lick (2008) (pre-production) (rumored) .... Seth Cecil The Great Buck Howard (2008) (post-production) Charlie Wilson's War (2007) .... Charlie Wilson The Da Vinci Code (2006) .... Dr. Robert Langdon Cars (2006) (voice) .... Woody Car Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D (2005) (voice) .... Narrator The Polar Express (2004) .... Hero Boy / Father / Conductor / Hobo / Scrooge / Santa Claus ... aka The Polar Express: An IMAX 3D Experience (USA: IMAX version) Elvis Has Left the Building (2004) .... Mailbox Elvis The Terminal (2004) .... Viktor Navorski The Ladykillers (2004) .... Professor G.H. Dorr "Great Performances" .... Mountie (1 episode, 2004) - Concert for George (2004) TV episode .... Mountie "Freedom: A History of Us" .... Abraham Lincoln / ... (7 episodes, 2003) - A Fatal Contradiction (2003) TV episode .... Abraham Lincoln - A War to End Slavery (2003) TV episode .... Abraham Lincoln - Independence (2003) TV episode .... Paul Revere - Liberty for All (2003) TV episode .... Daniel Boone - Wake Up America (2003) TV episode .... Reporter (2 more) Catch Me If You Can (2002) .... Carl Hanratty Road to Perdition (2002) .... Michael Sullivan "Band of Brothers" (2001) (mini) TV mini-series .... British officer Cast Away (2000) .... Chuck Noland The Green Mile (1999) .... Paul Edgecomb ... aka Stephen King's The Green Mile (USA: complete title) Toy Story 2 (1999) (voice) .... Woody Toy Story 2 (1999) (VG) (voice) .... Woody You've Got Mail (1998) .... Joe Fox Saving Private Ryan (1998) .... Captain John H. Miller "From the Earth to the Moon" (1998) (mini) TV mini-series .... Jean-Luc Despont/Host/Narrator Toy Story Activity Centre (1996) (VG) (voice) .... Woody That Thing You Do! (1996) .... Mr. White Toy Story (1995) (voice) .... Woody Apollo 13 (1995) .... Jim Lovell ... aka Apollo 13: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version) Forrest Gump (1994) .... Forrest Gump "Sunday Night Clive" (1 episode, 1994) ... aka Clive James (USA) - Episode #1.1 (1994) TV episode Vault of Horror I (1994) (TV) Philadelphia (1993) .... Andrew Beckett "Fallen Angels" .... Trouble Boy #1 (1 episode, 1993) - I'll Be Waiting (1993) TV episode .... Trouble Boy #1 Sleepless in Seattle (1993) .... Sam Baldwin A League of Their Own (1992) .... Jimmy Dugan "Tales from the Crypt" .... Baxter (1 episode, 1992) ... aka HBO's Tales from the Crypt - None But the Lonely Heart (1992) TV episode .... Baxter Radio Flyer (1992) (uncredited) .... Older Mike The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990) .... Sherman McCoy Joe Versus the Volcano (1990) .... Joe Banks Turner & Hooch (1989) .... Det. Scott Turner The 'burbs (1989) .... Ray Peterson Punchline (1988) .... Steven Gold Big (1988) .... Josh Dragnet (1987) .... Pep Streebeck Every Time We Say Goodbye (1986) .... David Bradley Nothing in Common (1986) .... David Basner The Money Pit (1986) .... Walter Fielding, Jr. Volunteers (1985) .... Lawrence Whatley Bourne III The Man with One Red Shoe (1985) .... Richard Harlan Drew Bachelor Party (1984) .... Rick Gassko Splash (1984) .... Allen Bauer "Family Ties" .... Ned Donnelly (3 episodes, 1983-1984) - Say Uncle (1984) TV episode .... Ned Donnelly - The Fugitive: Part 2 (1983) TV episode .... Ned Donnelly - The Fugitive: Part 1 (1983) TV episode .... Ned Donnelly Mazes and Monsters (1982) (TV) .... Robbie Wheeling ... aka Dungeons and Dragons (USA: video box title) ... aka Rona Jaffe's Mazes and Monsters "Happy Days" .... Dr. Dwayne Twitchell (1 episode, 1982) ... aka Happy Days Again (USA: syndication title) - A Little Case of Revenge (1982) TV episode .... Dr. Dwayne Twitchell "Taxi" .... Gordon (1 episode, 1982) - The Road Not Taken: Part 1 (1982) TV episode .... Gordon "Bosom Buddies" .... Kip Wilson / ... (37 episodes, 1980-1982) - Not the Last Picture Show (1982) TV episode .... Kip Wilson/Buffy Wilson - Not with My Sister, You Pig (1982) TV episode .... Kip Wilson/Buffy Wilson - Who's on Thirst? (1982) TV episode .... Kip Wilson/Buffy Wilson - The Way Kip and Henry Were (1982) TV episode .... Kip Wilson/Buffy Wilson - Hildy's Dirt Nap (1982) TV episode .... Kip Wilson/Buffy Wilson (32 more) "The Love Boat" .... Rick Martin (1 episode, 1980) - Friends and Lovers/Sergeant Bull/Miss Mother (1980) TV episode .... Rick Martin He Knows You're Alone (1980) .... Elliot ... aka Blood Wedding OK back to I Am Legend ..... Edited December 17, 2007 by timHealy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Saw it tonight. It was OK, a good suspense/thriller, but not too memorable. It would have helped if he wasn't being chased by cartoon mutants the whole time. Really took the realism out of it for me. Performance wise, he was great as usual. Can't really compare it to Castaway, totally different movie and pacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will griffith Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Can't really compare it to Castaway, totally different movie and pacing. I agree about it being totally different, but I guess it was the whole "talking to non-human characters" thing that stuck with me. Dealing with something that found him at the end was familiar as well... can't elaborate without spoiler though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will griffith Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I don't mean to hijack the thread but: are you kidding? ... ok ... geez I guess I will replace "MORE" with "SURPRISINGLY" versatile. "He is surprisingly versatile...but no Tom Hanks." -Will Griffith I would put my money on Smith in a fist fight though, you have to give me that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen lamb Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I enjoyed the way Andrew Lesnie shot the first scene that takes place in the dark with the mutants, where Smith chases his dog into the buildling where the deer went. I was impressed with how dark he let the scene go, and for a good part of it, the only illumination coming from Smith's flashlight. It brought a lot to the scene to make it more intense, and more confusing, just how one would feel in the given situation. I feel that many film makers would add some ambiant light to the scene to let the audience see the location, and I thought it was a nice move to let it play so dark. Bold, so to speak. I also liked what appeared to me a large portion of minature VFX work to depict the city, instead of just pure CG. I was disappointed in the story (could have been so much more) and the poor quality of the mutants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will griffith Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 where Smith chases his dog into the buildling where the deer went. That was one of the more suspenseful scenes I've ever seen. It looked amazing in 2k....but unfortunately 2k made the outdoor zombies look even more unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 That was one of the more suspenseful scenes I've ever seen. Yeah, that was definitely intense, especially since we hadn't seen the mutants yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I remember seeing " The Omega Man " when it came out it was a very dark movie and Charlton Heston gave a good performance , didnt see a lot of the zombies which is a good thing anyway dont know if i will bother to see this remake . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Thompson Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hey Fellows, Just wanted to set the record straight about "IAL". First I was the B/steadicam op on the first unit and present for every single shot done(even some of the second unit, as we had many crossover days). The film was shot in the anamorphic format using the C, E and Primo lenses with the Primo 11-1 and 2-1. Our focus pullers spent an incredible amount of time and effort in prep to find matching lenses for both the 1st and 2nd units. The footage that is spherical is the nite evacuation scenes. The choose to go spherical for that sequence was for the sake of ease and lighting. Attacking a sequence of that scale and caliber was not going to be easy. All nites for a week and a half with extra cameras,helicopters, tanks, boats etc. and thousands of extras it was the start of a logistical nightmare that was executed rather seamlessly. Focus Pullers Gregor Tavenner and Bobby Mancuso(some of the finest in the biz) did an awesome job. Working almost wide open on an anamorphic movie that is 90% handheld is an unbelievable task and both preformed flawlessly! I can not say enough about the job they did. The opening sequence with Shelby Mustang was shot with a real car. The only CG shot is the overhead birds eyeview of NYC with the car driving in the bottom of the frame. 2nd Unit did most of the free driving work with the car going at actual speed being pursued or tracked by the Russian Arm fellows. The footage with Will and the dog was done mainly with the car attached to the Go Mobile. I would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have about the shoot. Fire away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Max Jacoby Posted December 20, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2007 The footage that is spherical is the nite evacuation scenes. Ah so that's where the spherical bokeh I noticed in the trailer comes from. Thanks for clearing that up Dave. So if 90% of the film is handheld, I suppose it is Cs and Es then mostly, right? Or did you put the Primos in handheld/steadicam mode also? And did you find yourself favouring any focal lenghts in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Thompson Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Lense wise we didnt really stick to a specific formula. The C series lenses we had were reglassed and pretty much had the same characteristics as the the E's and Primos. As for what went on what, we handheld everything. The C's were mostly on the A camera, as we(B) did mostly the tighter work on the 135 and 180 E's an some of CF Primos.. On the steadicam we mostly stuck with the C's, but at times put the E and Primo series on. We even handheld the 11:1 for some crazy shots. If my memory is correct we mostly stayed in the 35 to 75 range, but it really depended on the shot. Saying that I remember doing some 28mm shots and some pretty extreme low angle prism work. An interesting side note is that because of the minimum focus on the anamorphic lenses a lot of the shots were done with Diopters. The AC's had a great system with their Prestons were they could switch diopters and rings and be ready almost instantly. As for the VFX work anamorphic gets a bit tricky. We had to shoot charts at every distance for every lens for them to map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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