Premium Member Max Jacoby Posted January 22, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2008 The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford by Roger Deakins Atonement by Seamus McGarvey The Diving Bell And The Butterfly by Janusz Kaminski No Country For Old Men by Roger Deakins again There Will Be Blood by Robert Elswit And on a sidenote, I am devastated that the amazing Keira Nightley got robbed of a nomination for her very natural performance in 'Atonement'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim Partridge Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 My (instinctive) prediction: Deakins or Kaminski will win. Double nominations for the same person in one category tend to cancel themselves out, but I still think it will be 50/50 on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arni Heimir Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I think that atonement could actually win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Lol, Deakins vs Deakins... I knew it! Sadly, I still have not seen three of these films! Regarding the two that I have seen, I actually liked the photography better in No Country than Jesse James. Sucks that Rodrigo did not get nominated for Lust, Caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Max i am stunned about your comment about Ms Knightley [NOT] cant understand why anyone thought that she be win anything for that performance . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 i was always going to put money on Roger Deakins , but which one now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lewis Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 My vote goes to Elswit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 22, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2008 It's time for Deakins to finally win one after being nominated so many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Perez-Burchard Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I think Deakins will finally get the oscar, probably for Jesse James (its hard for me to say this, but I think "No Country" deserves it more), and Robert Elswit will probably get the ASC award (note its the very same nominations). But then again Atonement seems like the "pretty" film (I haven't seen it, not out where I am right now) which could swipe the award from the truly deserving Mr. Deakins. my two cents. -felipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It's time for Deakins to finally win one after being nominated so many times. Yeah but the Academy at large might not know this. This will go to a full vote of the Academy membership, who are not necessarily experts on cinematography, and who have been suckers in the past for "pretty" period pictures like Atonement with beautiful actors and sets and costumes, etc. Atonement also has a visible "gimmick" with that long steadicam shot, which might sway average people. I have not seen Atonement yet, and it might be the most deserving, but don't expect the Academy membership to choose the best DP on pure merit. :lol: And I don't mean to disrespect the steadicam shot by calling it a "gimmick", but I hope you guys understand my meaning. BTW, are you a voting member, David? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayse Irvin ASC, CSC Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Deakins for Jesse James. Robert Elswit in second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 22, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2008 BTW, are you a voting member, David? Yes, though I screwed up and didn't get to nominate anything - I had the forms lying around and waited until I had seen enough of the movies to make a good judgement, then noticed that I missed the deadline for turning them in by one day. I assume I'll get a final ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Bruening Posted January 22, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2008 Okay. Most importantly, who's going to handle the book on this? Who's good with odds and has bank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Bonomo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 no offense to the other nominees, who i think are absolutely excellent, but I so hope that Roger Deakins is going to win this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yes, though I screwed up and didn't get to nominate anything - I had the forms lying around and waited until I had seen enough of the movies to make a good judgement, then noticed that I missed the deadline for turning them in by one day. I assume I'll get a final ballot. Heh. I know, I've really been lagging on seeing these pictures this year for some reason. So.... if you had voted, would it have been Deakins? Which picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 23, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 23, 2008 Heh. I know, I've really been lagging on seeing these pictures this year for some reason. So.... if you had voted, would it have been Deakins? Which picture? I'm not really allowed to go into details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I'm not really allowed to go into details. Because of the ASC? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 23, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 23, 2008 If you're talking about the Oscar nominating process, that's controlled by AMPAS, not the ASC. Like I said, I forgot to submit my nominations in time. When I get the ballot for the final awards, I will vote. I'm sure that AMPAS doesn't want members telling people publically what they are voting for -- besides, I haven't made up my mind, not until I actually look at the ballot. For the ASC Awards, I think my five choices were: Jesse James, No Country for Old Men, Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Elizabeth: The Golden Age, Lust, Caution. I think (this is from memory). I'm sure I debated myself on whether to replace one of those five with "Atonement". Since the awards are on Saturday, I won't say which of the ASC Award nominees I actually voted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 If you're talking about the Oscar nominating process, that's controlled by AMPAS, not the ASC. Like I said, I forgot to submit my nominations in time. When I get the ballot for the final awards, I will vote. I'm sure that AMPAS doesn't want members telling people publically what they are voting for -- besides, I haven't made up my mind, not until I actually look at the ballot. For the ASC Awards, I think my five choices were: Jesse James, No Country for Old Men, Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Elizabeth: The Golden Age, Lust, Caution. I think (this is from memory). I'm sure I debated myself on whether to replace one of those five with "Atonement". Since the awards are on Saturday, I won't say which of the ASC Award nominees I actually voted for. Oh, gotcha. Great choices. I've not seen Diving Bell and the Butterfly or Elizabeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted January 23, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 23, 2008 I have to admit I've only seen the first fifteen minutes of "Atonement" -- the projection wasn't that good and I got to a scene where a creepy man is chatting up some kids and I decided to come back another day and see if I could get further into the movie. It seemed very "novelistic" for better or worse. I hadn't seen "There Will Be Blood" at the time I had to send in the nominations. Personally, I would have a hard time dropping either Remi's "Elizabeth" or Rodrigo's "Lust, Caution" to accomodate those two other movies... though you could say that "Elizabeth" and "Atonement" share some similarities (net diffusion, period setting, elaborate camera movement, 1.85 frame). However, "Lust, Caution" and "There Will Be Blood" are very opposite tonally, in subject matter, setting, aspect ratio, etc. In some ways, "There Will Be Blood" has more visually in common with Deakin's two nominations. It's interesting to look at the technical trends here: “Jesse James”: Super-35 / 2.40 / Kodak / D.I. “Atonement” Super-35 / 1.85 / Kodak / D.I. “The Diving Bell and the Butterfly” standard 35mm 1.85 / Kodak & Fuji / no D.I. / ENR-type prints “No Country for Old Men” Super-35 / 2.40 / Kodak / D.I. “There Will Be Blood” 35mm anamorphic 2.40 / Kodak / no D.I. Anamorphic movies used to dominate the cinematography Oscar nominations but not so much anymore (though anamorphic photography often wins the award). D.I.'s have become the norm. Kodak is still the most common stock used. Most studio releases are in 2.40 these days, though most as Super-35 now. Special print processing like ENR has almost disappeared other than for Kaminski's movies, and this years "American Gangster". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Interesting, your comments on "There Will Be Blood." I'm very curious about this movie! I loved the photography on Boogie Nights (just for its enthusiasm, if nothing else), and I have read good things about "There Will Be Blood." Obviously PTA hired Malick's art director, Jack Fisk, and the picture has been compared to Malick's work. But the trailer didn't do much for me, photography wise. Elswit does have some impressive work on his resume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruairi Robinson Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 the trailer didn't do much for me, photography wise. I'm surprised to hear that...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I'm surprised to hear that...! It looked okay. I was actually more impressed by the photography I saw in the Atonement trailer. I should probably actually see the movies though! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Tom dont waste your money on Atonement its a stinker being very unpatriotic here but hope it doesnt win anything :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Keith Mottram Posted January 25, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted January 25, 2008 atonement's nomination is a complete mystery to me. it looked dull with some scenes being below tv standard- and some of the most horrible looking flares i can remember for a long time. it should also lose for having the most pointless 'look at me', teeth grindedly shite, amateur hour stedicam shot of all time. the only reason i can think of that people rate this film is because its english, so the brits can pat themselves on their backs, and the yanks can go "ooh they really know how to make costume dramas those limeys". it made no sense and even stole the bookend from titanic. utter bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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