Albion Hockney Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I'm sure this post has been made before, but I couldn't find a solid answer. I'm shooting a project, probably on Red ...maybe Alexa. We want to achieve the low frame rate streaking effect of early doyle work on won kar wai films. I know they acheieve the effect but shooting a low frame rate with high shutter angle and then printing duplicate frames. My question is simple because a lot of people seem to make this seems like its a complex operation on digital. Is the process not to simply shoot at 6fps and then in post double the frames to fill a 24p timeline? Edited February 26, 2015 by Albion Hockney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted February 27, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yes. Wong Kar Wei shot at 6 or 8 fps with a 180 degree shutter (so at 6 fps, 1/12 of a second shutter time) and repeated frames in an optical printer thru dupes to get back to 24 fps. So you can do the same thing with a digital camera if it shoots at low frame rates. The editor has to stretch this to 24 fps, if he just plays it at 24 fps, it will look sped up. He could look at it played at 6 fps of course to see the effect, but eventually he'd want to have the frames repeated so that it can be played at 24 fps and not look sped-up. 12 fps could be doubled to create 24 fps, but you'd need four frames for every original frame of 6 fps footage to get back to 24 fps. I guess it would be three frames for every original frame if you shot at 8 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg MacPherson Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm glad somebody pointed out that dodgy math! (smiley face etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny N Suleimanagich Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 What would the scanning workflow be for this? Would one need to scan film to a DPX file and then "stretch" them by duplicating? Or could it be done in the scanner itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted February 27, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted February 27, 2015 Generally you wouldn't do this at the scanning phase, you just scan each frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted February 27, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted February 27, 2015 Very interesting idea… I guess that's how he got the blur effect so well. Cool to know! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Miguel Angel Posted January 31, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted January 31, 2016 I found this, which might be interesting to see if somebody else asks about the topic. Have a good day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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