Alexander Sutton Hough Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Hi, I haven't worked with one of these but interested in getting one for my lighting kit. I am used to renting 2k Mole Richardson Fresnel but for my own kit want something that is light weight and more compact. I love Fresnels, but for my needs with a 2k tungsten is to soft bounce or shoot through 4X4, 6X6 and 8X8 most of the time so an open face is just fine. Also I have a limit to how much gear I can have for my own kit to store and transport in my car so I have to be smart about every piece of gear I buy. My main concern older homes with a 15amp circuits with a 2k light and I don't see a lower wattage bulb for this light? Any solutions for this? Also does anyone have some suggestions of another tungsten light that is light weight and compact and 2000 watts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Daffarn Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Hi Alexander - Sales Pitch Warning..... Check out out 2K open face. http://www.photonbeard.com/open-face.html We have local support in North California or even more local via MACCAM in Van Nuys. We also offer an HMI version which gives more light but is only 1200W. If you have any questions get in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Daniel Klockenkemper Posted October 1, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) The Arrilite 2000 is a bit smaller than a 2k fresnel, but is still a fairly bulky light - the light fills up a whole milk crate on its own (though it does fit entirely within, so you can still stack another milk crate on top). One thing you'll find about open-face lights is that they do have higher light output compared to fresnels. About 50% of the light from the globe inside a fresnel fixture hits the side walls and is wasted, while open-face lights throw almost all the light forward. The trade off is that fresnels are easy to shape and control, while an open face light is simply throwing light in all directions in front of it. If you're planning to throw all that light into a sheet of diffusion, then an open-face light sounds ideal for you. If you're happy with the amount of light you're getting from a 2k fresnel, then perhaps you only need a 1k open face, which would be much more compact. There are 2 general types open-face lights. One type has a round reflector and offers some rough focusing ability. The Arrilite, Mickey/Mighty Mole, Photon Beam, or Lowel DP (which uses interchangeable reflectors instead of moving the globe within the fixture) fall into this category. The Arrilite+ 750 might be of interest if it's within your budget, since its special reflector provides a much wider range of focusing and reflects more efficiently than the dull/dimpled reflectors of other fixtures, with an output equal to other 1k open-face lights at a lower wattage. Then there are "broad" lights, which are even more compact but offer no built-in control: Arri mini flood, Mole nook light, Photon Beard Minibroad, or the Lowel Tota, which is about as small as this type of light can get. These are also usually the most affordable, since they are very simple to build. Edited October 1, 2017 by Daniel Klockenkemper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mark Kenfield Posted October 2, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted October 2, 2017 Blondes are great. Compact, powerful and very versatile. I have a pair of the Arrilite 2000s and use them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Sutton Hough Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 The Arrilite 2000 is a bit smaller than a 2k fresnel, but is still a fairly bulky light - the light fills up a whole milk crate on its own (though it does fit entirely within, so you can still stack another milk crate on top). One thing you'll find about open-face lights is that they do have higher light output compared to fresnels. About 50% of the light from the globe inside a fresnel fixture hits the side walls and is wasted, while open-face lights throw almost all the light forward. The trade off is that fresnels are easy to shape and control, while an open face light is simply throwing light in all directions in front of it. If you're planning to throw all that light into a sheet of diffusion, then an open-face light sounds ideal for you. If you're happy with the amount of light you're getting from a 2k fresnel, then perhaps you only need a 1k open face, which would be much more compact. There are 2 general types open-face lights. One type has a round reflector and offers some rough focusing ability. The Arrilite, Mickey/Mighty Mole, Photon Beam, or Lowel DP (which uses interchangeable reflectors instead of moving the globe within the fixture) fall into this category. The Arrilite+ 750 might be of interest if it's within your budget, since its special reflector provides a much wider range of focusing and reflects more efficiently than the dull/dimpled reflectors of other fixtures, with an output equal to other 1k open-face lights at a lower wattage. Then there are "broad" lights, which are even more compact but offer no built-in control: Arri mini flood, Mole nook light, Photon Beard Minibroad, or the Lowel Tota, which is about as small as this type of light can get. These are also usually the most affordable, since they are very simple to build. I bought a used Arri Lite Plus 750 and It will arrive tomorrow. I am huge fan of the ETC Source 4 Par 750 and Panel for there energy efficiency but there not designed for being portable on production. The Arrilite Plus uses the same bulb and concept but more compact. Hope its a much better option in my light kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Sutton Hough Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I finally got a Arrilite 2000 and a really good deal for it from Adorama used section. A lot lighter and smaller than a Mole Junior 2k and happy with it so far. But what stinger should I buy for running 50ft and 100ft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 A 20 amp stinger should be OK. Remember, you can't power it from most domestic 15a outlets, you'll need to use the heavier duty 20a washer/dryer circuits if you're running from house power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Lawrence Conley III Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Of course it is going to be lighter than a Mole Jr 2k and lighter than the old Arri Studio 2k. Ya can get Baby 2k from Mole that is lighter than the Arri T2 Mole Type 4132 16lbs Arri T2 22lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Emanuel Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 The Arrilite 2000 is a bit smaller than a 2k fresnel, but is still a fairly bulky light - the light fills up a whole milk crate on its own (though it does fit entirely within, so you can still stack another milk crate on top). One thing you'll find about open-face lights is that they do have higher light output compared to fresnels. About 50% of the light from the globe inside a fresnel fixture hits the side walls and is wasted, while open-face lights throw almost all the light forward. The trade off is that fresnels are easy to shape and control, while an open face light is simply throwing light in all directions in front of it. If you're planning to throw all that light into a sheet of diffusion, then an open-face light sounds ideal for you. If you're happy with the amount of light you're getting from a 2k fresnel, then perhaps you only need a 1k open face, which would be much more compact. There are 2 general types open-face lights. One type has a round reflector and offers some rough focusing ability. The Arrilite, Mickey/Mighty Mole, Photon Beam, or Lowel DP (which uses interchangeable reflectors instead of moving the globe within the fixture) fall into this category. The Arrilite+ 750 might be of interest if it's within your budget, since its special reflector provides a much wider range of focusing and reflects more efficiently than the dull/dimpled reflectors of other fixtures, with an output equal to other 1k open-face lights at a lower wattage. Then there are "broad" lights, which are even more compact but offer no built-in control: Arri mini flood, Mole nook light, Photon Beard Minibroad, or the Lowel Tota, which is about as small as this type of light can get. These are also usually the most affordable, since they are very simple to build. Now I'm confused. I thought the order of brightness from darker to brighter was open face, fresnel, then par. I thought when you open the fresnel lens the fixture basically becomes an open face and its definitely a stop darker. And I thought a par was a stop brighter than a fresnel. And the new arrilite plus has the same par reflector as the M series, so does that make it a par? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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