Kodak 2383 safelight tolerance and other recs or tips you want to offer

[Sean Fisher]

I'm doing some experimenting with DIY hand contact printing on color print stock. I see that Kodak lists a "low-wattage bulb with No.13 filter." In your experience, is this adequate for a DIY setup (rewinds bi-packed through a sync block) or is this a recipe for fog? Any past experience handling 2383 or recommendations would be welcome. Thanks!

[Mark Dunn]

No 13 is an amber safelight filter for b/w printing on paper or blue-sensitive b/w print stock. You can't use any safelight at all with colour stock.

[Sean Fisher]

Kodak seems to differ: "You can use sodium-vapor lamps with a KODAK No. 13 Safelight Filter / dark yellow in safelights providing general darkroom illumination. The filtered sodium-vapor lamp provides the best visual efficiency with the least visual effect on the film. If you are using a low-wattage tungsten bulb for task-lighting, filter it with a KODAK 13 Safelight Filter / dark yellow. You can use amber Light Emitting Diodes (LEDs) (590 nm peak wavelength) for minimal task or path lighting; however, do not use them for prolonged or general darkroom illumination."

https://www.kodak.com/uploadedfiles/motion/2383_ti2397.pdf

[Mark Dunn]

I'm surprised you asked the question when you already had Kodak's recommendation.

I stand corrected, but I still wouldn't allow any safelight directly onto the film.

[John Rizzo]

The Amber safe light is fine of Kodak Color Positive stock.

[Robert Houllahan]

We use safelights in the print room for bothe color and B&W stocks including 2383.

[Sean Fisher]

Thanks John and Robert. I'm going to give it a whirl and see what happens. 

Robert, I intend to process at Cinelab, so I will (if I may) be in touch with you directly as I'm wrapping up.

[Robert Houllahan]

Ok let me know when your sending in, we run ECP (Color Print) and E6 Ektachrome in the same Allen Processor so print runs are usually once a week.