petersant Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Hi All, I'm about to start a S16mm production shooting on Arri SR2 and done steady tests for each mag (x2). both have come back from the lab. The tests were shot double exposed, offsetting the steady test chart slightly between. Both tests have a slight weave where the steady test chart grid is stable in the frame, however, the entire frame and its contents are weaving slightly. My question is how do you differentiate between camera weave and telecine weave? Any help greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Jaeger Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 When you view a double exposure steady test, the only thing you want to look at is whether the two grids from each exposure are locked together. If there is any camera unsteadiness, the grids will move relative to each other. Don’t pay any attention to whether the entire frame is moving, only look at the two grids and whether there is any movement between them. If the grids seem locked together, the camera registration is steady and you’re good to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersant Posted August 13 Author Share Posted August 13 Thanks Dom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sustaining Member Dimitrios Koukas Posted August 13 Sustaining Member Share Posted August 13 It has been a long time since I did this... But you re saying that you have slightly offset the grid in second exposure run? Or it is my bad English maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sustaining Member David Sekanina Posted August 13 Sustaining Member Share Posted August 13 Instead of a grid, you could shoot a fine dot pattern once, rewind, rotate it slightly a shoot it a second time. the result will be a moire pattern, and the moire will move if the camera is not steady, and can be distinguished better from the scanner's gate weave. I have never tested this though - but will give it a try one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robino Jones Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Ask for an overscan so you can see the film perforations, if the perfs move with the grid then it's the telecine / scanner and if they are super steady then it's your camera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robino Jones Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Here's a hand processed reg test I did with my CP16 with old expired plus-X film. pass: cp16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersant Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 10 hours ago, Robino Jones said: Ask for an overscan so you can see the film perforations, if the perfs move with the grid then it's the telecine / scanner and if they are super steady then it's your camera. Perfect. Makes sense. Thanks Robino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted August 16 Site Sponsor Share Posted August 16 I always do an overscan for registration tests and on the Scan Station or Xena which have machine vision optical perf registration so the scan will be rock solid locked to the perfs. Best practice IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Looper Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 In terms of weave, 16mm film is edge aligned in the camera. Not perf aligned. So any scanners that align 16mm film, using the perfs for registration, will exhibit weave, due to a certain amount of weave in the film stock perfs (relative to the edge of the film). Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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