Anthony Schilling

I watched it again and although it's very clean, the colors and latitude look much nicer than digital. You have to think of it in terms of how you would make the stock look, or the other stocks which all have more grain. But it's nice to see how far you can take the format. I would love to shoot a short feature on it for someone if i had the chance, and use all three negatives.

It doesn't looked cropped, how do you avoid having the side bars?

I would have to agree this is the best S8 footage I have ever seen. They have succeeded in building the ultimate S8 camera. I can think of a lot of purposes this camera would serve. But I think there are far more people like me who use film for non dialog projects, art projects, installations, music videos, home movies, stylish cut-aways, personal fun ect... where the two main advantages this camera offers is rock solid registration and wider frame for better HD transfers. I think they could open up a wider market with an additional pared down model that could be made for less? without the on board audio, without the wifi and high tech digital stuff. Just focus on the same transport system with the same gate, and some variable frame rates from single to 54fps would be all that a lot of us need. That said, my issue is since i already have a nice Bolex Rex4 with a full set of primes, i'm much better off cropping that image to 16x9 if sound sync is not an issue. If you're doing weddings or have a small production company, then this is a great camera at a good price. I just think it misses the vast majority of the niche at the current but justified price tag,

Very true. The other day we went to a carnival and street fair and it took me all day to a total of 70ft consisting of 5-10sec shots that mattered.

SOLD!

I'm offering my Retro8 Super8 film scanner for sale. It runs rock solid and is one of thee best Super 8 home scanners available. It handles negative film really nice. It's the 2fps model, but i find the slower rate much easier for color correcting on the fly and multitasking. The only reason I'm listing it is because i'd like to upgrade to a 16mm scanner.

I have the S5 but the S4 should be just as or almost as good. It's excellent for viewing and splicing, but i don't see it working very well to record moving images from. If you want film scanned for cheap, PM me.

The Minette is the only Super 8 viewer as far as i'm concerned. Very bright clear picture, all the rest are very poor.

I think it will be a great camera for sure, would definitely be my first choice. With the R&D vs low production volume, I can't argue about the price either. It's just not cost effective for me as a hobby and artist. It is somewhat tempting to wonder what I could do with it and how much interest i could drum up as far as revenue to justify it. In fact at this point, i wouldn't pitch super 8 in a pro sense unless i had this camera. I think it would be good in the hands of a lot of DIY film makers in which digital technology has created a lot of. Lately i've been getting more films to scan from people trying out the format as an alternative to video... in which DSLR's have mostly dominated.

I've done it quite a bit for live music. My Canon 814XLS will hold sync for about 10-15 seconds before i see drift. The key has always been to have 2 cameras footage cut together, or have cutaway shots that you can go to then cut back to the re-synced dialog. It works well for 5 minute songs, but a 45 minute interview may be tough unless you can cut away to reference visuals often enough and use vocal pauses to re-sync. Or you can pick up the new Logmar Super 8 camera that runs crystal sync. They may have a 200ft mag coming too. www.logmar.dk

Problem is that most professionals shooting on a Hollywood budget can't shoot Super 8 very well. I'm glad it exists, but isn't in very close reach to many artists that could make the most of it.

Looks like it's ready for purchase by the public http://www.pro8mm.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Product_Code=camera_logmar&Category_Code=S8

You can't get Kodachrome developed anymore. Kodak still makes 4 film stocks. 3 are color negative and have to be scanned, the 4th is a B&W reversal that you can project or scan. http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Products/Production/Spotlight_on_Super_8/Super_8mm_Products/index.htm http://www.spectrafilmandvideo.com/

Dig was an excellent doc. There are some scenes, and behind the scenes where you can see the Nizo. Looks like a standard 481/561/801 ect

This setup wouldn't work with negative film, just the TriX

Oh what a nice prick tease from 2012, maybe a new thread would have been better? The update down the page is not viewable with all the pop ups

I'm quoting from the head of this post which is supposedly new information. If it's not, then this whole thread is bogus. where is your quote from years ago?

"Ms. Pasterczyk is a chemist with film R & D at Kodak, and she mentioned that Kodak Research is currently engaged in the continuing design and implementation of new emulsions, such as the new version of the Vision III product."

It's good to hear that they are still willing to evolve the Vision stocks instead of just letting them run the coarse as is. I've been wondering if a Vision 4 will come without an orange mask and just be a full DI stock. They tried it before with a one size fits all 500T stock but it was the wrong thing at the wrong time.

The problem with Kodachrome was the processing. it was a toxic and complicated process. Without the process it's just a B&W film. A boutique run would have to be a safe bet at least. With a current void and demand for a color reversal film, an E6 film would be the safest and best bet. If they updated it to be a little sharper, that would be awesome.

A few years ago when all movies were shot on film, a good chunk of them were consumer garbage just like now. As someone who sparingly shoots film on a personal budget, it quite irked me at the time as to how much 35mm film was being wasted on such content. I think Kodak's new "Film Worthy" campaign sums it up just right. A movie like "Scary Movie 15" would not be worth the silver.

After seeing the latest "Hunger Games" movie the other day that was shot and projected on digital, has me predicting a massive die off of cinemas over the next decade or so. It was extremely milky and transparent and I blame most of it on the projection. The theater experience is just not the same anymore. The last few movies I've seen digitally projected felt more like some free makeshift outdoor movie night in the park, not a true cinema experience. But like all digital technology, it will get better. Which means theaters will have to upgrade the super expensive crap they have now in just a few years. Where as a film projector cost 1/4th as much and pretty much run forever. Meanwhile TV's keep upping the home theater experience. Since so many smaller cinemas struggled to barely make the transformation to digital, I don't see them keeping up in the long run with how digital evolves and the cost that goes with it.

Spectra is a good lab, the quality and quality control on their processing is top notch. I use them for all of mine, sending out a batch tomorrow!

Yes the new 4K Black Magic camera footage looks really nice for video, a real step up..... from traditional broadcast video. Technically, it's very sharp with intense color but for some reason the image hurts my brain. That's because film and video affect the brain differently. The difference is very apparent to me and I think it is to the general public. It's just that the general public can't explain the difference and naturally assume that everything they see is some kind of digital image. That's what the hype promotes while film information is silent. I could easily shoot the music video i'm working on with a decent Canon 7D. It will be sharp and of high technical quality for what it is, But will look like every other DIY video project out there which is forgotten the next day. I'm not against video for it's many useful applications of story telling or getting a message out, but film is art while video is utilitarian. When people watch my S8 films on Bluray, they are fascinated by even the most mundane content. Why? because that's what film does to your brain.

"Motion picture film plays an important role in the indie community, giving these unique storytellers the creative freedom and option to tell their stories as they envisioned." Thank you Kodak!