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Laziness might be due to not being cleaned and lubed for a while. I myself sent my Bolex H16 for CLA (=Clean, Lube, Adjust) some weeks ago due to it not running that well. Verdict? 60 years worth of dirt. I don't know whether your Bolex is a reflex one or non-reflex like mine but either way they are nice pieces of mechanical marvel. Should be good choice for shooting some color reversal as well, as at the moment there is only polyester based film material (AGFA 200D) available. The good thing about spring wound motor is that you quite probably won't be able to break your camera even if that polyester material jams.. :)

For more budget oriented users there are nowadays really cheap options for processing and scanning. An example: 85 EUR (excl. VAT) for 400 ft of 16mm ECN-2 processed and 2K scanned (for processing only 35 EUR). That's the local place I use (http://alhoslab.fi). If combined with Frame24 raw stock prices using 16mm film is cheap -- only about 150 EUR for 400 ft of film, processing and scanning. For the price of one day's worth of Alexa rental (900 EUR) one can thus have 60 minutes of raw film+process+scan. Not that expensive I think.

Last Spring I was to shoot a very small budget commercial. At first I was about to use some DSLR but then I realized that since I own an Eclair ACL and I had some older film stock in the fridge I might as well shoot it with that. Ergonomics were certainly better, commercial has now its own distinctive look and it didn't really cost that much more than renting a DSLR (I didn't even contemplate higher end digital, too pricy). Take a look! (there's 2K original quality available as well, thanks youtube!):

Is there interest? No doubt. Can you get a good price? I doubt it. Unless your Eclair is taking up much needed space and/or you'd just like to have it used again by someone, I'd vote for keeping it yourself, perhaps for personal projects. There are people who'd want to buy it from you, but you won't be able to get much more than 1200-1500 EUR for it. This year I have seen two German S16 Arri SR2s sold on Ebay for about 1200 EUR. Prices have come down a lot even if there are still people trying to sell old and semi-rusty Eclair NPRs for 2000 EUR there. There is one quite similar package for sale up on Ebay at the moment. You might want to take a look at for how much it sells: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eclair-ACL-Super-16mm-Cine-camera-system-Les-Bosher-conversion-PL-and-C-mount-/331003024159?pt=UK_Movie_Cameras&hash=item4d1151531f

Focal length is always the same regardless of the format. Only field of view changes. The (consumer) digital camera way of marking the focal length "equivalent to the 135 photo format" is common to those pocket cameras but elsewhere focal lengths are really comparable. Thus 1.9mm is 1.9mm and 7-56mm is 7-56mm.

Looks like Canon Scoopic 16mm: http://www.erkanumut.com/?s=16m

For reference: http://www.arricsc.com/camera/arricamlite_rental.html

Are you sure you wouldn't rather want to rent it? Even the one for sale behind the following link is probably used, not new.. http://www.visualproducts.com/store03.asp?ID=14&Cat=2

Here are the project details: Format: Max 8 (Super Duper 8) Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1 Camera: Beaulieu 5008s Multispeed, modified to shoot in the Max 8 format Lenses: Fujinon 16mm F/1.4, 1.5 Megapixel Lens (CCTV) Anamorphot 16/32/1.5x Bolex/Möller Anamorphic Lens Film: Kodak Vision2 50D (5201) from Pro8mm Lab: Pro8mm, Burbank, CA Scan: Millenium M2, 1080p24 to ProRes 422 Codec Edit: Final Cut Pro 6, ProRes 422 23.976 Timeline Post Processing: Neat Video Denoise Plugin Via Final Cut Pro 6 Anamorphic De-Squeeze via Adobe After Effects CS3 Sharpening via Adobe Photoshop CS3 Information above from this full video:

Sorry, just used the x in place of the focal length. Google for HF and HA-1. But nice to know about Pentax lenses :)

For machine vision it certainly isn't dead format: http://1stvision.com/lens/fujinon-lens.html

Not my work, but if I remember correctly the telecine was made by Pro8mm. They have Millenium II: http://www.pro8mm.com/scanning-super-8-to-digital.php#03

Fujinon HFxHA-1 series megapixel lenses (C-mount) seem quite good. The only issue might be with the wider lenses which have protruding back elements that might pose a problem with the shutter/mirror of the camera. Here's a list of them, not too pricey, only about $110 - $170 a lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Price_%240+-+%24249.99&ci=3659&N=4045021054+4288580118+4291437653+4073573425+4293918168 Here's one super-8 film shot with such a lens (Fujinon HF16HA-1B) and an anamorphic lens:https://vimeo.com/16590706

Here's one UK based company: http://www.gaugefilm.co.uk/processing.html

What I find rather curious is that already with the bluray releases and more so with upcoming 4K release formats we are in a situation that the releases sold to customers have more than enough resolution for running your own underground theather with a 2K or 4K projector. In this age and time guarding 35mm release prints doesn't really make that much sense anymore.

Please do notice that the Framemaster (for use with super-8 cameras) and pressure plate in a new camera are two different things. In this camera the film is first taken out of the cartridge for threading through the gate and pressure plate. It's like in 16mm or reg 8mm cameras.

Thanks Lasse, that sounds quite good and simple solution.

A few questions regarding the sound recording: - Is it possible to record audio even when the film is not running? - Would it be possible to have something like 5-10 sec. buffer for sound that would be saved if the filming was started? For documentary shooting this could be beneficial.

You might want to consider buying the new super-8 camera of which we got to see first prototype photos today :) http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=60409&page=3&do=findComment&comment=393435

That's film length meter, how much is remaining in the cartridge. Also, I think "parking" refers to whether or not the film is running, not to the park... :)

Excellent! :)

Hello everyone, I have been trying to find some information concerning this lens: Arriflex standard mount, zeiss standard speed 16mm (for 16mm, this is planar) f2: does it cover super16? Thanks!

My vote for Kodak Vision3 200T and 50D. Both should work quite well with Bauer A512 (and Leicina Special), since it isn't disadvantageous to have a little overexposure with negative film stocks. As for best package, there are companies that offer film with processing and telecine, such as British Gauge film (http://www.gaugefilm.co.uk/ -- mostly reversal stocks it seems?). You can also buy film separately, in Europe Wittner-Cinetech (http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de) is probably the one with best selection available. For processing within Germany contact Andec film (http://www.andecfilm.de) For cheaper & slower turnaround but rather good super-8 processing & telecine contact A.Alhosen elokuvalaboratorio, Finland (http://alhoslab.fi). Processing & 1080P HD scanning of one neg cartridge (to HDD, internet preview included) costs 25.73 EUR incl. VAT 24%.

Wittner-Cinetech has it in stock: http://wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/04_filmm/16_filmm.php

Esp. 3:35 -->! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBaqeiyV6hU