Dennis Toeppen

Yes, that's right. The packing job ruined the pizza boxes. The 12 x 12 x 16 cartons were too thin and I think a maximum stack of 4 would have eliminated crushing of bottom pizza box(es). The crushing clearly occurred during carton drops. I've never had problems with 16mm film shipped in these boxes, because it's much lighter and because the lab rolls have been smaller. But 35mm is too heavy in relation to the strength of the thin cartons.

The original plan was for them to scan. The cost-minimizing way to scan is to build the largest rolls the scanner can handle. They said this meant 1200'. I never really understood that. All DPT scanners seem to be able to handle more than 1200'. But that's my only reference.

There's the solution I was looking for. That sounds perfect. I can't wait to try this tomorrow. I've got some 2000' cans and plenty of cores (2" and 3"). I also found this shortly after posting the saga above. I don't like that only 180 degrees of each side is supported, but the price is right. As you can see, it's made of PPE, so it's archival. The nice thing about this solution is that I don't have to scrounge for free 2000' cans and a truckload of cores - although I think your solution is superior. https://www.printfile.com/product/ap351200-35mm-1200ft-film-container/ Thanks very much for your suggestion.

Picture... What's up with the super low limit on image upload size, BTW? Odd.

Saga... I had 70 x 400' x 35mm rolls processed at a reputable lab. They were spooled onto cores as 1200' lab rolls. Then each 1200' lab roll was placed into a ~2 mil poly bag, then roll and bag were placed into an 11.5" x 11.5" pizza box. A 1200' lab roll is about 11", so there was some play. The pizza boxes are thin 1 ply cardboard. The top and bottom are easily deflected, particularly when containing a 1200' lab roll. These must weigh 10-12# each. Next, 9 boxed lab rolls each were stacked in three rather flimsy 12" x 12" x 16" cartons, and the cartons were shipped via FedEx. Results: Worst carton was burst at one corner, crushed upward about 1" at corner, and box showed clear evidence of having been compressed by a load on top of it. The bottom five pizza boxes had broken at the top and bottom seams. Film in bottom few boxes had unwound a bit. Film in these bottom boxes also showed evidence of "coning". To me, this suggests that I will have both longitudinal scratches and perpendicular scratches. Also, at least one poly bag failed, so shards of cardboard and some dust made it into the bags to serve as grinding media. I'm kind of mad about this. But being mad won't fix the problem, nor will it undo the expenses I've incurred, nor will it return the subjects to the location the were in last summer, nor will it take the subjects out of retirement, nor will it bring back to life the subjects who have passed on. So I'm not dwelling on that. But I do need to figure out how to properly ship multiple lab rolls of 35mm film after processing, so this $*&#* doesn't happen again. It seems like reels are the best way to ensure the safety of film. But putting negs on reels? That seems kind of odd. The negs are on cores when they come out of the lab. Split reels seems like an ideal solution. But do I want to buy 10+ 35mm split reels? I'm sure that would be extremely expensive, if I could even find 10. 1200' lab rolls are slightly too big for 1000' cans. If I have them make 800' lab rolls in the future, that will drive the cost of prep and transfers way up, and they won't be snug in 1000' cans. I really don't know what to do. But I'm 100% certain that I am not the first person to ship processed 35mm film. I'm hoping someone out there can point me in the direction of a good solution. At some point, I need to ship this to get it scanned. Right now, 28,000' of 35mm is unseen. I hope not to destroy it before I see it! At least it's stored at 60F/30% RH. Thanks in advance for any wisdom you toss my way...other than suggestions that I go digital 🙂

My personal opinion is that you should steer clear of Calkovsky.

+1 for whole picture. what about a gradient on the bottom, maybe 20% at top edge, 80% bottom edge, when you've got weirdness to hide.

There was some discussion awhile back about putting 1R film in 50' GSAP magazines. I just thought I'd share my experience with Russian-manufactured Kiev 50' GSAP magazines, which are designed for 1R. I can sum the results up in one word: Awful. I've tried this at least five times, using different Kiev magazines, which were inspected for working parts/proper operation before loading. They've all produced similar results. Here are a couple tests: Revere 16, which usually produces footage with amazing registration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akmVFvfzQOw B&H 200 Pressure plate in magazine didn't cooperate much: https://youtu.be/Co8WFk9ZwiM?t=136 B&H 200 Here's the one time I got lucky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V8Kqx-MKDo So I don't recommend using the Kiev magazines. That's about all I've got to say about that.

The worst thing you can store film in is aluminum film cans. The worst films I've handled have been in aluminum EKC cans. Steel cans aren't as bad as aluminum, but they are reactive. Best bet is Polypropylene (sp?), because it is quite inert. Holes are good. But don't go throw your holy cans in the basement, attic or garage! Molecular sieves are your friend, but don't overdo it. One final word of advice: "Microenvironment"

Yeah, I am extremely sick of governmental agencies trying to find revenue streams in normal day-to-day activities of its citizens. I mean, if they want to end taxes and switch to user fees, ok. But I'm sure as hell not ok with both. Don't even get me started on governmental entities asserting trademark rights in things that are owned by taxpayers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvJRgGle9wU&feature=emb_imp_woyt I was once pursued by a law enforcement ranger in Yellowstone after a person at the south gate noticed my Kodak K100 in my car. I am not kidding. Gate agent summoned LER and told him what I was driving. A few miles later, he spotted me as he was heading opposite direction and made a quick U-Turn. Then he followed me for a bit. I jumped off at the turnout for the first crossing of the Continental Divide and there wasn't space for him, so he staked out a position down the road. Then he followed me again. When we got to West Thumb junction, he pulled me over with a bogus excuse - claimed I was following too closely. I sort of chewed the guy out and he decided to go pester someone else. Good thing it wasn't my 235 or 416, or I'd still be in jail.

Just buy double-perforated film. I have an idea where you can get it: www.toeppenfilm.com

I suppose anything is possible. I like Mark Dunn's theory.

Basements and attics are film's two worst enemies.

Just Say No to 16/8 2R in 16mm cameras. Here's what happens (sample size=1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKxVr1xwL2U