Nor Domingo Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thanks so much for this post. Just shows how much I still need to learn especially with shooting digital. SOme of the terms(knee, detail, etc) I still need to look up. I won't bother asking you what those are. My question, actually is very simple. You said shooting exteriors you use bounce boards and white sheets. Is there a difference in quality between the bounce boards(Foam core?) and the white sheets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sing Howe Yam Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Wow, this really blows me away. I haven't seen much shot like that and fool me that it was film. When I saw one of your first frames and then read it was shot on the F900 my jaw dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 At the risk of looking a real moron could I ask what 'knee' is. My HV30 has no manual control over it (obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Matthew, the Knee is the upper part of the 'characteristic curve' of Video (with film, it's called the Shoulder) The way that the Knee curves defines how suddenly whites clip into peak white. Traditionally, with video the curve is more of a hard angle, hence the nasty look of hot highlights, whereas with film the curve slopes much more gently into overexposure, giving film its' much valued smooth highlights. I'm sure others can give you a far more technical explanation then I can. Nor, there is no difference in the quality of light bounced off sheets or foamcore, but sheets are useful in that you can cover large area of ground and have actors walk over them, or they can be quickly folded up and fitted into spaces (like cars) where foamcore would be inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Brinkhaus Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Stuart, your trailer link is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted November 26, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted November 26, 2008 Stuart, your trailer link is down. This one is on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Matthew, the Knee is the upper part of the 'characteristic curve' of Video (with film, it's called the Shoulder) The way that the Knee curves defines how suddenly whites clip into peak white. Traditionally, with video the curve is more of a hard angle, hence the nasty look of hot highlights, whereas with film the curve slopes much more gently into overexposure, giving film its' much valued smooth highlights. I'm sure others can give you a far more technical explanation then I can. Nor, there is no difference in the quality of light bounced off sheets or foamcore, but sheets are useful in that you can cover large area of ground and have actors walk over them, or they can be quickly folded up and fitted into spaces (like cars) where foamcore would be inconvenient. Thank you Stuart. That's a perfect explanation for me, not too technical, but still informative. So, by increasing the latitude of the camera's knee you are softening the curve to a more film-like level. Ah! I get it now. Thanks a lot. Boy if I had control over that I wouldn't have to underexpose my video so much, but I do like that low key look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Stuart, your trailer link is down. try this Blood River Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Your cinematography was outstanding, but I doubt I'd watch it. It's not a happy film. And I can get easily depressed in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tim Terner Posted November 26, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted November 26, 2008 Really nice photography Stuart. Just a matter of time and luck 'till you get a big one to shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor Domingo Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Nor, there is no difference in the quality of light bounced off sheets or foamcore, but sheets are useful in that you can cover large area of ground and have actors walk over them, or they can be quickly folded up and fitted into spaces (like cars) where foamcore would be inconvenient. You are absolutely right! It never crossed my mind to have actors walk over the bounce instead of following them around with reflectors. And the CONVENIENCE!! I'm going to buy tons of white sheets!! HAhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted November 27, 2008 Premium Member Share Posted November 27, 2008 You are absolutely right! It never crossed my mind to have actors walk over the bounce instead of following them around with reflectors. And the CONVENIENCE!! I'm going to buy tons of white sheets!! HAhaha They're nice to have around for shooting car scenes where you don't have a process trailer. You can cut and tape the sheet around in the car to help fill in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wuijts Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hey Stuart, nice job! I have a question about the saturation level. Why would one lower the saturation in camera as opposed to in post? Thanks and good luck with the film, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 I lowered the Saturation level because I feel that video always has an unnatural level of color, to my eye at least. I did it in camera to make sure it was done, rather than rely on the vagaries of post production, where too many other people have a say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Blood River just won The Gold Kahuna Award, Special Jury Prize, Audience Award and Best Actor Award at the Honolulu International Film Festival. It's playing next at the Boston Underground Film Fest on Sat 21st March , at 7.45pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Kieran Scannell Posted March 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted March 17, 2009 Congratulations Stuart!! A little recognition goes a long way. Kieran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted March 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted March 17, 2009 Blood River just won The Gold Kahuna Award, Special Jury Prize, Audience Award and Best Actor Award at the Honolulu International Film Festival. It's playing next at the Boston Underground Film Fest on Sat 21st March , at 7.45pm Cool! I heard through the facebook grapevine that it was starting to be seen by people. Not long ago I was wondering what ever happened to BR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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