Premium Member Vincent Sweeney Posted June 29, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2011 http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2760350745/ (480p version at the least) Kaminski and Rick Carter are in a class of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris D Walker Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 My cynicism has got the better of me. The footage from the trenches and the battlefields does look fantastic, but the central character is a horse. There are several shots from the trailer that made me laugh embarrassed at what I was seeing; the boy carries a drawing of the horse around with him. Maybe my cynicism will fade if I decide to see the film in December. My faith in Spielberg has been shaken since 'The Lost World - Jurassic Park' and hasn't got much better (The Terminal, War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull). I'm not particularly excited to see 'Tintin' either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The play has grown men bawling their eyes out wherever it plays. i just hope that Spielberg hasn't set the schmaltz control to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I am going to reserve judgment until I see it. Looking forward to watching a Spielberg movie TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Samuals Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 The trailer does look promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaan Aslam Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 So David Devlin, Kaminski's gaffer since Jerry Maguire has been credited In War Horse, Lincoln, as well as some other productions as Lighting Director. Why is it Lighting Director rather than Chief Lighting Technician or Gaffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I haven't seen the play, but it always seems darker than what the trailer seems to imply. There were millions of horses used in world war one, with extremely high casualty figures. I've heard soldiers talking about the bond they formed with their horse during that war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Maibaum ASC Posted November 27, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted November 27, 2011 Saw "War Horse" today. Definitely schmaltz, but it works. The ending is visually reminiscent of the best of John Ford. Cinematography very accomplished. There is an "old school Hollywood" look to much of the film which I can appreciate although some day exteriors seemed over-lit to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I havent seen it yet , interesting you say day exteriors look over-lit . the last Raiders film lit by Kaminski had really badly overlit exteriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markshaw Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 My cynicism has got the better of me. The footage from the trenches and the battlefields does look fantastic, but the central character is a horse. There are several shots from the trailer that made me laugh embarrassed at what I was seeing; the boy carries a drawing of the horse around with him. Maybe my cynicism will fade if I decide to see the film in December. My faith in Spielberg has been shaken since 'The Lost World - Jurassic Park' and hasn't got much better (The Terminal, War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull). I'm not particularly excited to see 'Tintin' either. Yes the main character is a horse. But weren't critics cynical when Spielberg announced that he was making a movie about Dinosaurs? Let's give this movie a fair crack of the whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Rosenbloom Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I havent seen it yet , interesting you say day exteriors look over-lit . the last Raiders film lit by Kaminski had really badly overlit exteriors. If you're carrying 4 bee-bee lights, you might as well use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I dont know if its a American thing but whats a bee-bee light ? I take its something very powerful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Maibaum ASC Posted December 1, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted December 1, 2011 I dont know if its a American thing but whats a bee-bee light ? I take its something very powerful ? http://www.nightlightsbybebee.com/Night_Lights/HOME.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted December 1, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted December 1, 2011 I think that lives alongside musco lights and missed meal penalties as an example of something most of us will never see because we are not massively successful Hollywood DPs, so it becomes rather irrelevant. Honestly, how often can this stuff possibly go out, even in LA where there's ten features over a hundred million shooting every weekday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 They sure do look bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 "Warhorse" was shot over here ( GB] so those things would not be available here , i think Kaminski may have lost the plot when it comes to close ups in outside situation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Murphy Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 "Warhorse" was shot over here ( GB] so those things would not be available here , i think Kaminski may have lost the plot when it comes to close ups in outside situation ! Actually there are a few Musco's in the UK. So am I the only person who actually liked how Indy 4 looked? (the first hour of Indy 4 at least):-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I had no issues with the way Indy 4 was filmed. When I show friends the movie (on Blu-ray) they are always impressed how it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Bonomo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Me neither, i thought the cinematography was pretty good, to me it looks like Kaminski tried to follow in the footsteps of Slocombe, paying a tribute to his cinematography, but with a personal "twist". Actually, I think the movie was ok, but it was almost completely ruined by the ending and by the way exposition was handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Francesco how would define this personal "twist" love to know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markshaw Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I also liked the way IJAKOTCS looked. It went well with the look of the earlier IJ movies. I'm actually liking it the more I watch it. My little nephew loves it, especially the jungle scenes, bless him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Bonomo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Francesco how would define this personal "twist" love to know . John, I don't know if "twist" is the right word, and if it is, I don't know if it's something that comes from Kaminski's approach or if is it a choice made by Spielberg in trying to "update" the series. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember Slocombe using nets or soft filters in the first 3 films, nor I do remember a strong use of shooting with back light, while Kaminski seems to use those quite a bit in pretty much everything he's shot, including Indy 4. I also feel the camera moves a lot more in Indy 4 compared to the first 3 films, it's more "dynamic" so to speak. Although I like the way Indy 4 looks, to me it looks slightly more "glamorous" or "polished" than the other 3 movies, if those two words make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Back light yes give me more . My problem was he used so much light to fill the backlight .To me looked like a badly lit 60's anamorphic film and now thinking about it he doesnt like anamorphic and over lights it , which you just dont need to do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francesco Bonomo Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Back light yes give me more . My problem was he used so much light to fill the backlight .To me looked like a badly lit 60's anamorphic film and now thinking about it he doesnt like anamorphic and over lights it , which you just dont need to do . Yes, I'd say I agree with you on the amount of fill. It's almost as if he went too far into getting a more "classic" high-key look for the picture. Getting back to topic, I've heard from some people who've seen War Horse, and while they liked it a lot, they said daylight scenes look a little bit overlit too, so I don't think it has to do with the choice between anamorphic and spherical. I think that was a deliberate sylistic choice by Kaminski (in Indiana Jones 4, too) and it made sense to him, whether we like it or not. As I've written before, Indy 4 is definitely not my favorite in the series, but way more because of the story than the cinematography. (DISCLAIMER: almost needless to say, I'm a huge fan of his work) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Francesco this did start with overlit daylit scenes on War Horse which i havent seen i just picked up on that and said i felt the same about Indy 4. So i think we may agree . Take care, john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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