David Owen James Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I'm looking to purchase a camera and a serviced Arri SR I or II seems to be out of my budget. What are your thoughts on the Eclair NPR and the CP 16R? I have been told the Eclair NPR is hard to find parts for, but will that be a concern if I buy one fully serviced? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Jensen Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Owen James Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Why purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted October 19, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2011 The NPR is of far more historic importance, and was far more widely used. The CP is more rugged and reliable. The NPR was hard to keep working even when they were new. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Jensen Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Why purchase? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie Pabst Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I have a late model NPR (English made circa 1980, U16). Serviced and converted by Bernie O.,it runs like a champ. But I'm not a hi volume shooter so I don't have the experience of running the camera everyday. But I'm very happy with it. Plus I got it at a great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 get an aaton ltr 7 if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Owen James Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Why do you like the Aaton LTR 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted October 20, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2011 Aatons are newer than the NPRs, and a pleasure to put on your shoulder. As for mechanics, I can't speak to that, but Aatons, though I'm an Arri man myself, are damned nice cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Owen James Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 I know the CP 16R doesn't have a registration pin, which is holding me back from purchasing this particular camera. Does anyone know if registration is a problem with this camera or does it work great without one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted October 20, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2011 The CP16 is an Auricon movement, it's about as good as a non-pin movement can be. The NPR "bench type" registration pin didn't really work all that well, so they're about a wash. For significantly better registration, you have to go with Arri or Mitchell. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Charles MacDonald Posted October 20, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2011 The CP16 is an Auricon movement, it's about as good as a non-pin movement can be. Actually, I have been told it is technically a _COPY_ of an Auricon movement. Walter did not sell movements to Cinema Products, but they reverse engineered the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg MacPherson Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The CP16 is an Auricon movement, it's about as good as a non-pin movement can be. The NPR "bench type" registration pin didn't really work all that well, so they're about a wash. For significantly better registration, you have to go with Arri or Mitchell. -- J.S. Years ago I nearly bought a non reflex CP16. The gate had some tiny balls that sat in the film sprockets for regestration. I did a regestration test, shooting some parrallel lines, then rewinding the film, rotating the lines about 5 degrees and reshooting. The two sets of lines weren't stable together, so just intuitively, that was a fail. Good excuse not to buy the camera. Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted October 21, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted October 21, 2011 Indeed, you have to test the individual camera. These are all so old that condition trumps design. -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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