Andries Molenaar

There are other US suppliers for S8 gear and materials. Using late model low mileage top cameras like your Canon 1014xls, Leicina special or NIKON R10 you can shoot S8 until your retirement. It seems you would only be stuck with pro8mm when you would want to purchase a Logmar. There is no real advantage to the Logmar unless you are in pro studio filmmaking.

Use a telephone?

The kickstarter prices aren't the future retail prices. The films are a reward for the supporters. Much of the pledged money-amount is to be used to get things started.

Why would you think that. Better check their website and see how things are faring.

There is no point in bringing up images or experiences from 30 years ago. Just wait for the first production and see what advances were achieved.

So, it is an off the wall transfer?

The photokina was nice as I spent the best part of saturday but it had very little on show for silver-halide workers. It is very much a business to business fair. All kinds of obscure gear, print services, albums, frames, software etcetc In this digital age they really need to run the show yearly rather than every two years. I walked by the JOBO booth and didn't notice the S8 insidedrum. They were playing with it somewhere backstage? The booth was mostly packed with digital image frames and such. Good news that even think of ciné processing. Although I would be surprised if they manage to sell 500 pieces at all. Who knows though. Have they found the moulds for the Expert-drums themselves? Many important moulds were sold/destroyed after JOBO went bankrupt some years ago. That is why it took forever to get new CPP in production. Only FOMA had a booth completely packed with silver materials. Ilford only had brochures and not even some real paper. The hand-out sample was a digital reproduction. Even Fotoimpex only had a very small booth and only some bottles of chemistry on display. They have booth only to shake hand and receive guests? Kodak showing off a app for image enhancement. They used to have a floor of their own with all kinds of shows and demonstration going continuosly. Fuji had plenty digital going on but did nicely with the Instax gear. Even new models and a on Instax printer for phone usage. If only the packs weren't so expensive. Things would be better if there were a hall(part) with analogue only. Or a show on its own. Shorter and on a location nearby but of its own.

What is unfair? Chosing a skilled filmer and writer over a student with little experience? Contact Logmar and see if you can use it around the Logmar location. If so, pack your films and then travel to Denmark :) Processing at Andec on the way home.

Possibly you are doing a blackwhite reverse on a color negative? Then the orange mask turns blue. The orange mask needs to be taken out separately.

It is all very cumbersome. You could use flash in the dark and expose twice :) You could externally rewind or on ZMII and ZM4 use a rewind knob which you need install on the drive axis. Otherwise use Single-8. A number of these cameras have excellent rewind and multiple exposure.

Put an Neutral Density filter of 8x (3 stops) on. Make sure the exposure system works through the lens otherwise reduce the ISO value. If the camera exposure system is on ISO 100 it will underexpose a film of ISO 50.

Maybe plan a Christmas holiday in Denmark/Sweden. Plenty to see and experience :)

They better start work quick on the first large production batch. Slow supply after introduction is about the worst thing that can happen. I feel they are loosing the momentum already. But then there weren't any new cameras for 25 years so what would a few months make for a difference :)

But then it would be a professional niche market overnight.

Likely it did :) Considering what they want for 'refurbished' cameras like the CANON 310 with Rhonda's lepard print. And the money for Phil's hairdresser must come from somewhere. The early price was just unrealistic low for retail let alone wholesale. Even if they manage to sell 250 pieces and minus the production costs they make one Euro per hour for research and development.

Use a Fujica P2 Or Canon AF310XL who are modern lightweigth enough. Draw power from the main battery or use AAA in a clip or use AA adapters

Good luck to Logmar. Let's see what they make of the pricing. De pro8 operation has bit of different burning rate than the Logmars. Unfortunately/likely the distribution in Europe goes to Wittner. Then we know what we can expect there too. Did anybody ever check with Kodak if these intend to remain in the S8 market?

It is a metal rod with a plateau on which a second eyecup sits. Just to blind the eye which can't look into the viewfinder. Should be adjustable if it is not custom made for one sinle person. Peopl ehave different eye-to-eye distances. It is not an optical thing which allows to view through two eyes :)

Indeed the imagery isn't too pleasing. Bumpy and very poor focus quality. Or was it so poorly scanned? S8 cameras tend to weigh a lot compared to the copter liftcapacity. So you would need a big one. The advantage is they can run from a few AA rather then NiCd packs. It has been discussed elsewhere. A long time ago there were amateur rockets which would have a special dedicated S8 camera on board. It used clips of film in small dedicated cartridges. Considering the cost per minute I would try to use the remote control of the camera. And attempt to shoot only when there is chance of something interesting. Also it would be better if there was something to see moving down on earth. Image quality is just too poor for scenery. Regulations likely forbid flying these things over people and to film people in their homes and such. So it must be sideviews of trains, autobahn, wateractivities etcetc.

I am aware how things work. Considering the rather low price it is a smallwonder they can produce and deliver without losing money. If they have to supply wholesale from that to some it seems to there will be no profit at all for Logmar. Hourly rates for skilled labour in Denmark aren't that low. Considering the pricing philosophy of Wittner and Pro8mm on rebuilt cameras I expect the Logmar will need to sell at some $5000 They are no pricing low on gear to make a few dollars on films and services.

These area all "auf Rohfilmkern (Bobby)" I.e. a core. Not on 200ft spools. Wittner would need to restart their 200ft spooling department. And have spools manufactured.

Good luck! Makes one wonder though what will happen to the price of the camera. The originally posted price doesn't allow for these kind of happenings and expenses. How many could they possibly sell? 200? 500? And resellers should sell at the same price as Logmar themselves? How could these resellers possibly make a workable profit on the sales? Remarkable how the 200ft option has become part of the camera. Is there still production of spools? And is somebody filling these?

It doesn't have a screwthread. And the LCU is fixed to the tube too.

Has told before DS8 long rolls are a standard intermediate form in the S8 production. It merely suffices to roll a number of these long rolls onto 100ft spools. Every S8 batch could supply a few of these long rolls. It is just being stubborn.

I always thought the big guys perforate film using large wheel mechanism where one wheel guides the film and has the die built in. Another wheel has the punches and interlocks. Interval is then insured by the punching wheel. It seems even the biggest now use BUKO style perforators which have up and down travelling punches with the guides a few perfs ahead. Kodak can supply the DS8 batch without a modifcation to their perforation process. It is just handling the pancakes and confections the DS8 spools. :( So Kodak, come on with these supplies! We'll settle for a SO typenumber of film. No fancy cans or labels needed!