Joshua Miner Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Hello folks, I watched a diffusion video from Aputure where they used some smaller diffusion frames, I think 48"x48", and various diffusion fabrics like muslin, magic cloth, and grid that were already in that size. I cannot for the life of me find 48"x48" fabrics aside from Voodoo Cloth from MSE and Magic Cloth from TRP - I'm wondering if they were custom made, though they had grommets and looked like larger-sized fabric pieces with a hem. To that end, what do you all recommend for diffusion in interior spaces? I'm fine with getting a 6'x6' or an 8'x8' frame for outdoor usage, I just wonder if there's a feasible, smaller form factor for interior lighting. I'm still learning much about lighting and grip and I'm grasping at straws on how to properly do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted February 4, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted February 4, 2019 Most productions carry 4x4 metal gel frames held by c-stands diffusion or color gels can be taped to the frame. Usually the gels are cut from 48 inch wide rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted February 4, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted February 4, 2019 I am sure The Rag Place can make that up http://theragplace.com/ I've seen 4x4s of such material before, and asked for it on occasion; but honestly, normally on a 4x4 frame we're doing gel cuts. For interior work I much like a 6x6 or an 8x8. Normally we'd just T-Bone them, no need really to build a whole frame. Depends on the space, of course. Sometimes we need to use a 12x12 T-bone, even if it's just a living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Miner Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thank you David and Adrian! I'll check in with the Rag Place, pick up a 6x6 frame and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Conley Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Westcott Scrim Jim kits are another option.We have a few in our rental inventory and are nice because they break down to fit in a small carry case. Surviving the rental world pretty good too. https://www.fjwestcott.com/shop/light-controls/scrim-jim-cineAnother grip/fabric shop is Modern Studio Equipment https://modernstudio.comModern has an Instagram and FB page and they have Monday deals - They just had a deal on a 6x6 frame.Cool to deal with on the phone too. (The Rag Place is a good shop as well ) Edited February 5, 2019 by Ed Conley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie A Brown Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Adrian or David, can one of you guys explain what a "T Bone" frame mean, or is? Never heard or read that term before when talking about gels, frames, etc. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted February 5, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted February 5, 2019 Instead of building a whole frame as a square you just use one section of the pipe attached to a stand; basically forming a T, if you can imagine that, and then hang your cloth from it. Only really works for interiors where you don't have wind and the like and just need something put up quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie A Brown Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thanks Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Thank you David and Adrian! I'll check in with the Rag Place, pick up a 6x6 frame and go from there. Try Highlight Film Works, local manufacturer of rags, appleboxes, etc., in Yonkers, NY area. Email is easiest: Phgrip01@aol.com He'll make any size flag or rag you want, with any fabric he has available. His 4x4 Ultrabounce floppies are great, better build quality than others. He does re-covers and repairs as well. Edited February 5, 2019 by JD Hartman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McGrath Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Chimera makes collapsible panel frames with a variety of fabrics. So does Westcott with the Scrim Jim Cine system. LA Raghouse offers just about any of their fabrics in a 4x4 slip-on, which mounts directly onto a 48x48 trace frame. All depends if you need a solid or collapsible 4x4 frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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