Guest Ian Marks Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Thanks again, everyone. I'm building quite a list of films to see. . . eventually. "Hidden Fortress". . . was that the Japanese film that many say influenced "Star Wars?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted March 3, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted March 3, 2006 "Hidden Fortress". . . was that the Japanese film that many say influenced "Star Wars?" Yes, but there's a gag stolen from "Yojimbo" as well (Mifune hiding under the floorboards from the bad guys.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Clarke Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) A few that have not been mentioned.... Dead Man (1995) Dir: Jim Jarmusch Ph: Robby Müller Down By Law (1986) Dir: Jim Jarmusch Ph: Robby Müller La Haine (1995) Dir: Mathieu Kassovitz Ph: Pierre Aïm I Am Cuba (1964) Dir: Mikheil Kalatozishvili Ph: Sergei Urusevsky All have photography that perfectly fits and reflects the mood of the film. The slow building presence of Down By Law & Dead Man, Robby Müller (IMHO) at his best. The high contrast and gritty feel of La Haine never seems to contrive or look down upon the characters in the ghetto. The beyond belief camera moves of I Am Cuba, cameras going up the side of a building, through the window, tracking through the room, out the window, to a panorama of a street festival, tilting down, tracking overhead the crowds.... all in one shot! And the sugar canes, shot on infrared b/w, becoming like feathers blowing in the wind. What I like about these films is that the camerawork never gets in the way of the story. Especially hard in a modern film that chooses to shoot black & white, a decision that draws attention to the photography automatically. Chris. Edited March 4, 2006 by flyingpenguins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Bulgarelli Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I don't think we've mentioned the 40's version of "The Killers". Noir at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Do you guys ever read a post, and you have a great answer because of something that happened to you just recently, and you can't wait to give someone a good answer, but then you read the entire thread and find that someone else has already mentioned it? Well, regardless, I watched I Am Cuba just yesterday and it was just so beautiful. Every single frame is just stunning. Urusevsky's sense of movement and composition are uncanny, so I'm going to have to concur with the person who suggested I Am Cuba. Does anyone know what type of film it was shot with? Possible Agfa or Ilford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Clarke Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) Do you guys ever read a post, and you have a great answer because of something that happened to you just recently, and you can't wait to give someone a good answer, but then you read the entire thread and find that someone else has already mentioned it? Well, regardless, I watched I Am Cuba just yesterday and it was just so beautiful. Every single frame is just stunning. Urusevsky's sense of movement and composition are uncanny, so I'm going to have to concur with the person who suggested I Am Cuba. Does anyone know what type of film it was shot with? Possible Agfa or Ilford? Maybe we should start a thread on I Am Cuba for this... I've attached an article on the film. On page 20 there's some interesting info on how they did some of those moves, incredibly inventive people. I_AM_CUBA.pdf Edited March 5, 2006 by flyingpenguins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivian Zetetick Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I don't believe anyone has mentioned: The Institute Benjamenta (1995) Gaslight (1944) They Were Expendable (1945) The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947) Last Year at Marienbad (1961) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rizos Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 The Seventh seal, and Virgin spring. Anything by Bergman off course but those two are my favorites. Louis Bunuel mexican period films, are dark and moody. It's very hard to imagine them in color. Try Los Olvidados or The brute or Wuthering Heights. And no one mentioned Battle of Algiers. One of the qualities of this film that's overlooked is the composition. For example the shots of people in the ruins after the police set the bomb, are out of this world. There is also at least one instance where intrercutting of the same shot with different grain levels, works in a way that defies decription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeliki Makraki Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 The Elephant Man A very good movie. Very moving. I would also add Bela Tarr's films. Satan's Tango Damnation, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Alderslade Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 A very good movie.Very moving. I would also add Bela Tarr's films. Satan's Tango Damnation, etc.... I can't believe no one's mentioned Psycho yet.... its perhaps the most famous black and white film of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Too tired to check if anyone's already posted this, but "High Noon" with Gary Cooper is starkly beautiful. There's really something magical about the "desert" (at least the Hollywood backlot version of it) in B&W. I'm not sure if they got the effect by just not filling in the shadows, but there's a really high key look to the whole film that I really enjoy. The story is almost as riveting visually as it is dramatically. And of course all of Ford's westerns are tops too. Fort Apache is great. I already saw She Wore a Yellow Ribbon on here, which is good as well. Hope that's of some help. Regards, ~Karl Oh, check out Pi for a more avant guard, gritty look. Ed Wood is also a marvelous recreation of '50s lighting techniques, not that they used exactly the same form of lighting, diffusion, or the same glass, but there are some shots where I honestly can't tell the difference, were it not for Johnny Depp being in frame of course, between a film shot by Ed Wood and the movie "Ed Wood". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob.m.Neilson Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Paper Moon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Buick Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Broadway Melody of 1936 - Charles Rosher ASC. Babes in Arms - Ray June ASC. Strike up The Band - Ray June ASC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Fernando Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Any of the 'Apu Trilogy' by Satyajit Ray & Subrata Mitra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas Loureiro Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 SOY CUBA SOY CUBA SOY CUBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 And of course all of Ford's westerns are tops too. Fort Apache is great. I already saw She Wore a Yellow Ribbon on here, which is good as well. Oh, check out Pi for a more avant guard, gritty look. Ed Wood is also a marvelous recreation of '50s lighting techniques, not that they used exactly the same form of lighting, diffusion, or the same glass, but there are some shots where I honestly can't tell the difference, were it not for Johnny Depp being in frame of course, between a film shot by Ed Wood and the movie "Ed Wood". 'She wore a Yellow Ribbon' was Technicolor. The old Indian who wnts to go off Nathan to hunt buffalo and smoke many pipes is the Indian on the nickle. Really. 'Fort Apache' uses infra-red stock for some of the shots of the cavalry columns and Indians standing atop mesas against black skies with near glowing clouds. another giveaway is that the cavalry tunics are light grey instead of black. Ed Wood's cameraman Wm.C.Thompson was at the end of a career that went back to the teens, he did shorts at Universal in the early 30s which aren't mentioned on IMDB. He also photographed 'Dementia/ Daughter of Horror' was fairly impressive noirish night work. Also 'Divorce, Italian Style' has some fine B/W photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 (edited) 'She wore a Yellow Ribbon' was Technicolor. The old Indian who wnts to go off Nathan to hunt buffalo andsmoke many pipes is the Indian on the nickle. Really. Are you SURE you want to say that? I could have *sworn* it was butchered by TCM and colorized. I hope you don't think that Technicolor color is as bad as or cartoonish or as indistinguishable from digital video colorization that you can't tell the difference. Edited April 10, 2007 by Karl Borowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Technicolor it was shot by winton hoch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Mulder Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Tarkovsky's Stalker if it hasn't already been mentioned. If it has - I second that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeliki Makraki Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 (edited) Was Stalker in Black and White ? We forgot Max Ophuls.. more for the camera movement than the fact that they were in Black and White. Edited April 10, 2007 by Angeliki Makraki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Otaviano Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I posted here before but I've recently seen another one called "Judgment at Nuremberg" by Stanley Kramer (great director) . Beautifully photographed in black and white ... and great camera work. I think everybody should see this movie (it will be aired on TCM this month by the way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeliki Makraki Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Those were already mentioned in the original post! It's hardly surprising to go back to the height of b&w photography (1930's-1950's) for good examples. Some of these have already been mentioned, but among my favorites for b&w photography are: Sunrise, Passion of Joan of Arc, The Fugitive, How Green Was My Valley, Jane Eyre, Rebecca, Citizen Kane, Magnificent Ambersons, Portrait of Jennie, Night of the Hunter, The Innocents, Out of the Past, Mildred Pierce, Casablanca, Hud, Sweet Smell of Success, In Cold Blood, Last Picture Show, Paper Moon His Girl Friday was a good BW movie from the 40's, although it's known more for it's rapid fire dialogue. One jail scene was lifted by the director of Silence of the Lambs, Jonathan Demme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 (edited) Anything shot by Henri Alekan From "La Belle et la bête (1946)" to "Roman Holiday" to "Wings of Desire" all gorgeous Edited April 10, 2007 by Jonathan Bowerbank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 'Rebecca'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Is it me or did most of the people go back atleast 20 years...how about Schindler's List. I know almost everyone has seen it but damn is was a great B@W. Or there is Roger Deakins - The man who wasnt there. Also well shot. Does "Man Who Wasn't There" or "Good Night & Good Luck" REALLY count if they're shot on color and converted to b&w? Both gorgeous films, but could another category be made for learning how to shoot color for b&w? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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