Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 There is a wooden gangplank in that photograph with transverse battens on it. So I reckon the stands either used the battens as stops or were fastened to the plank- one of the stands has hole in the legs- depending on the slope. I think you are right and that they removed the castors and then used the holes where they used to be to screw them to the wood. It's one theory anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Looking closely, quite a lot of the lights have been fixed to the centrifuge frame after removal of floor panels. BTW I've just recognised John Alcott with his hand on the bugeye 65mm. camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 It's weird to see all that archaic lighting equipment on a spaceship. Even weirder to see all the elaborate parts of the set that never made it on screen! Nonetheless I do think it looks very much of its period. If someone had done that recently I suspect it would have been a lot moodier. Consider this, which is an attempt to depict a more or less identical sort of environment, or at least equivalent circumstances, in The Martian. P By moodier, I assume you mean darker. Oddly both 2001 and the shining very much have a mood to them in spite of being brightly lit. It is especially interesting in the case of The Shining! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Michael Leeds Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 "Archaic"?!?! How rude! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 "Archaic"?!?! How rude! ;-) Heh heh, especially as my own lighting kit is just as old and nowhere near as nice for the most part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Image in post #40, the stand looks like a variation of a T-bone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Image in post #40, the stand looks like a variation of a T-bone. Interesting idea... Heres a link for those wondering: http://www.msegrip.com/product/hardware/hangers-holders-brackets/matthews-tbone.html I definitely see where you are coming from but I'm not ready to move away from the castor stand without castors just yet. Would be really interesting if it was both tho. All ideas come from somewhere... Edited March 3, 2016 by Freya Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Look at the second one in the same image, it's just a base, 2 legs fixed 180 degrees apart from each other, the third leg is perpendicular to the other two. It's a T-bone, some British version of it or maybe some Mole Richardson equipment made it across the pond. Their older stands are particularly clunky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 You can see the unit creating the slit of light in this photo: The two stands look different to me. The one to the front is the one that looks like a T-Bone or like a stand with the castors removed maybe (or even both) but the one further back looks like just a Y shaped stand. To my eyes that one actually looks like a vintage microphone stand. It's actually this second one that seems to be holding the flag/mask/gobo thing. I can't work out what the one in the foreground is up to. Wish I could zoom in further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Some Mole Richardson stuff definitely made it over here BTW. It trades for silly money on e-bay, even just the mole richardson name plates are sold for a load of money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Took a lot of work but JD is definitely right. Pretty sure it's a Mole Richardson floor spider which is an early version of the T-Bone. Freya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 ...Also starting to think the two stands are the same. I think they both have 3 feet but in the one in the distance the curvature of the floor is hiding it a bit maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 This is the Mole Richardson floor spider and while it might not be identical, it looks VERY close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 These are maybe the same thing almost: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 JD is there nothing he doesn't know about Grip stuff??! :) As to the theory that it might be adapted from some older light stand I searched and searched but couldn't find anything close. It was invented as a T-Boney thing to start with it would seem. Which is annoying as I hate it when the truth gets in the way of a really good story like that. Freya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mark Kenfield Posted March 3, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted March 3, 2016 What I can't get over is how well dressed the crew are! Collared shirts and sweaters? On set?! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted March 3, 2016 Author Premium Member Share Posted March 3, 2016 Those look like the base of the stands on the centrifuge set but I'm not sure how they got the posts to be vertical with the base at an angle, there has to be a bend somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted March 3, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted March 3, 2016 What I can't get over is how well dressed the crew are! Collared shirts and sweaters? On set?! :p Imagine how hot and pungent it was on set with all the crew sweating in those clothes under tungsten lights! And we complain now about lighting to 800 ISO and wearing long pants... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 JD is there nothing he doesn't know about Grip stuff??! :) As to the theory that it might be adapted from some older light stand I searched and searched but couldn't find anything close. It was invented as a T-Boney thing to start with it would seem. Which is annoying as I hate it when the truth gets in the way of a really good story like that. Freya Freya, yeah, tons of stuff I don't know. I just knew what they were, because having rented many modern ones, made up of angle iron and flat steel strip, I've decided to try my hand at making a few. So I've sort of studied them. Those in the shots from the set look a more ornate or complicated compared to what's produced today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) They seem to have a second socket, perhaps set at an angle. Perhaps they had some welded up- the angle would be predictable. Otherwise they seem to be the same or similar. I bet Kubrick picked his own welder. It certainly looks like they're fastened to the board. Edited March 4, 2016 by Mark Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephKHansalik Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Thank you for the posts everybody; I just found 69 good reasons to watch 2001 again. JKH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Martin Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 My review of THE 2001 FILE (spoiler: I loved the book) just went up on HDVP's site. http://www.hdvideopro.com/film-and-tv/feature-films/the-shape-of-things-to-come 2001 junkies will find much joy in the reams of design illustrations in this handsome volume, though you need to air the book out for a couple weeks because the printing odor is like leaded gasoline being pumped in through your gas mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 just received these b-t-s photos from pinterest: http://themoviescore.com/behind-scenes-2001-space-odyssey/ some of these are already on the posts, but so many more here. yours in tohoscope, ---LV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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