Premium Member Hal Smith Posted June 13, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) I can only assume that anyone bitching that Natalie used a dance double never saw "Singin' in the Rain". Hollywood's used skilled doubles for everyone in every imaginable circumstance since its earliest days. Natalie did a pretty good job of faking professional ballet dancing but it took a real dancer to perform the parts requiring years of training and practice. Can I also assume that there are people out there complaining that Leonard DiCaprio didn't really fly the planes in "The Aviator"? I just noticed Phil made my very point back in March... Edited June 13, 2011 by Hal Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hulnick Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 No, but the problem is that the dancing was an integral part of the performance, and it wasn't hers. And yet she got an Oscar for it. If this news had come out before the vote, there's no way she would have won. And Sarah Michelle Gellar played Buffy the Vampire Slayer, by your reasoning you actually expected her to kill real Vampires? She PLAYED, it doesn't mean she has to be, so long as her performance shows credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 And her performance did show credibility. Her anger and also vulnerability were performed very well by Ms. Portman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markshaw Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I don't understand what her dancing abilities have to do with her right to an Oscar. It is her Acting abilities that won her the Gong. Her ability to play the role of the dancer is what counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John David Miller Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I really felt that Hailee Seinfeld deserved the Oscar for True Grit over Portman. But that is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hailee Seinfeld's performance was superb, especially for some one so young. I think we will be seeing a lot more of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Jensen Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I have read most of the posts and this is such a non issue. I believe Sarah Lane should have been given more credit. Unfortunately for her, credits are given by the producers and they can be very creative when doling out credits, if at all. The reason the credits were given like this was not to deceive the academy voters. They are film people and know exactly what is going on. The reason was to deceive the general public into thinking that Natalie Portman did all her own dancing. It gave her her dance credibility. It added to her mystique. Who cares? Films are fantasy anyway. Films are designed to deceive and manipulate. This wasn't a documentary. But, to think that Academy voters are not very savvy when it comes to process of filmmaking and who does what, is a bit naive. I think I mentioned Tom Cruise and the image portrayed that he does his own stunts is ludicrous. We all know that that his career as a stuntman is somewhat limited in scope. We all know that Natalie Portman is an actress and not a professional ballet dancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Exactly my thoughts. She is paid to ac, not to dance. Tom Cruise is just a walking EGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Daniel, I don't want to single you out, but I've been seeing so much of this lately (and been guilty of it myself) that I wanted to say something here. If you want to succeed in this industry, then you will be working with these people at some point down the road. Even if they aren't "in our departments" actors, directors, producers get plenty of grief in the tabloids; they don't deserve it from us too. Maybe Tom Cruise really IS an butt. Maybe the last 1st AC I worked for WAS an butt. I still wouldn't come out and say it on here. This is a small industry too, and the people you insult may be denying you jobs 20 years hence if you give them grief and they see it. EDIT: Nonsensical sentences :-/ Edited July 13, 2011 by K Borowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted July 13, 2011 Site Sponsor Share Posted July 13, 2011 I hear that Natalie wants to Drink and Fight, I hear she likes to F**K all night..... But maybe she don't dance so good..... -Rob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Rob, LOL! Speaking of funny jokes, I've been looking everyowhere for the US-centric map of the world you guys had hanging up in the sweat shop. Please tell me you didn't throw it out during the move! I've been looking everywhere for that particular map without success. Could you take a picture or flatbed it and send me a copy please? P.S. Why didn't CINELAB get the processing on that movie? If I had all the fancy machinery you guys do, I'd be all over every 16mm production in the U.S. like it was my job! Unfortunately, 100 feet is what we top out at for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted July 13, 2011 Site Sponsor Share Posted July 13, 2011 I don't know where Brad got the map, shoot him an email maybe he remembers. Cinelab did not process Black Swan because it was a studio funded feature with A-List stars shooting in NYC, why would they send the film to Boston when Technicolor is only blocks away? Price? all the processing and dailies for that film are probably less than 1% of budget and they would not care about price. We are running a 16mm feature in Boston starting soon, because we are closest. -Rob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I mean no disrespect Rob, of course it would be hard to get an A-List feature. And you are right about price as well. I'd recommend RAISING prices for studio films in that case ;-) I remember the last film I worked on we booted the film back to Photochem. . . west coast instead of using the closer NYC labs, yourselves, or shooting it up to what is it now Grace and Wild? in Detroit. I know who I'd use if I were the DP shooting an A-List movie in Detroit for my neg: Cinelab :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Matthew W. Phillips Posted July 14, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2011 Look, I'm an Academy voter, most of you here are not, so you didn't get to vote for her Oscar one way or the other, so most of you can't make claims of being "cheated" into voting for her since you couldn't anyway. So, basically what youre telling us is that we can blame you for the Oscar? Ok, done! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Jackson Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Daniel, I don't want to single you out, but I've been seeing so much of this lately (and been guilty of it myself) that I wanted to say something here. If you want to succeed in this industry, then you will be working with these people at some point down the road. Even if they aren't "in our departments" actors, directors, producers get plenty of grief in the tabloids; they don't deserve it from us too. Maybe Tom Cruise really IS an butt. Maybe the last 1st AC I worked for WAS an butt. I still wouldn't come out and say it on here. This is a small industry too, and the people you insult may be denying you jobs 20 years hence if you give them grief and they see it. EDIT: Nonsensical sentences :-/ Actually, I was defending Ms Portman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Andre Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 an butt. Nonsensical sentences :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Sprung Posted July 20, 2011 Premium Member Share Posted July 20, 2011 Could this damn thread please finally just die and go away? -- J.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willisokan Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 i think i was a interesting specially story line Emergency alert system Medical alert systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 @Andre, that was pretty funny. You realize though that that is the forum sensoring a certain substitute for the word "butt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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