Jurgen Lossau Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) My little publishing house is preparing a new book called PROTOTYPE. Inside there are around 100 movie cameras that were never built. Super 8, Single-8, 16mm, 8mm. Ingenious designs that were too expensive to mass produce. Or were conceived too early. Or too late. Models that could take photos and filming movies. Intelligent design, opulent functions. Inventions between 1935 and 1980. A last look at these analog treasures before they are forgotten. Interviews with constructors and designers. This book is free for pre-ordering now. Today, technical books are only available in small print runs. That's why we work with pre-orders for this title, in order to be able to estimate the exact print run. Distribution currently only online and not through bookstores. Here you will find more information: https://www.mysuper8.net/shop/prototype---100-unknown-movie-cameras/ Edited February 25, 2022 by Jurgen Lossau 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Sekanina Posted February 25, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted February 25, 2022 wonderful Jürgen - just ordered one ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted February 25, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted February 25, 2022 Looks very interesting, Jürgen! I’ve ordered one as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Kovats Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Great. More wonderful film based detail to feed my addiction. ? Copy ordered. Edited February 25, 2022 by Nicholas Kovats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted February 27, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 I was always fascinated by the 12-perf 35mm horizontal movement camera prototype built (in the 1990s?) to create 2.40 images with 65mm quality (8-perf VistaVision has a 1.50 : 1 aspect ratio so had to be cropped to get 2.40). But it never got off the ground for various reasons, one of them being the surrounding post infrastructure needed for telecine transfers, etc. The idea is similar to what Fred Waller was working on to replace 3-camera Cinerama when he died in 1954, except he was also trying to use a curved film gate as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) On 2/27/2022 at 5:10 PM, David Mullen ASC said: I was always fascinated by the 12-perf 35mm horizontal movement camera prototype built (in the 1990s?) to create 2.40 images with 65mm quality (8-perf VistaVision has a 1.50 : 1 aspect ratio so had to be cropped to get 2.40). But it never got off the ground for various reasons, one of them being the surrounding post infrastructure needed for telecine transfers, etc. The idea is similar to what Fred Waller was working on to replace 3-camera Cinerama when he died in 1954, except he was also trying to use a curved film gate as well. Well, David, lets put this 35mm example in the next book, for now I have more than enough to do with 16mm, Super 8, Single-8 and 8mm;). Thanks for the pre-orders so far. Here are the brand names from the book: Agfa 3x 8mm, 8x Super 8 Arri Super 8 Bauer 5x Super 8 Beaulieu 2x Super 8 Bolex Super 8 Bolsey (8mm) Braun Nizo 2x 8mm, 10x Super 8 Canon Super 8 Chinon Super 8 Eumig 15x Super 8 Fujica (5x Single-8) Gakken (Single-8) GOMZ (Super 8, 16mm) Kodak 16mm, 2x Super 8 Leitz Leicina (12x 8mm) Logmar Super 8 Meopta (8mm) Nikon 8mm, Super 8 Rollei 8mm, 16mm, Super 8 Saraber Finetta Super 8 Silma Super 8 Suchanek (8mm) Victor (2x 16mm) Zeiss Ikon (16mm) and others Edited February 28, 2022 by Jurgen Lossau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Kovats Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Hi Jurgen, When do you anticipate the book will be ready for shipping? Nicholas - Toronto Edited March 31, 2022 by Nicholas Kovats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 As mentioned on the website, November 2022, maybe earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Kovats Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 Here is a nice article about the upcoming book: https://www.filmkorn.org/cameras-of-dreams-a-book-about-prototypes/?lang=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Kovats Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Jurgen Lossau said: Here is a nice article about the upcoming book: https://www.filmkorn.org/cameras-of-dreams-a-book-about-prototypes/?lang=en Will it be available in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Sekanina Posted April 4, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) It's written both in German and English from what I can read. Edited April 4, 2022 by David Sekanina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Nicholas Kovats said: Will it be available in English? Of course: https://www.mysuper8.net/shop/prototype---100-unknown-movie-cameras/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Uli Meyer Posted April 5, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just ordered mine! Can't wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 The book is in the print shop now. 150 (!) prototypes on 180 pages. Will be published in two weeks. Get your copy here: https://www.mysuper8.net/shop/prototype---150-unknown-movie-cameras/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 Here is the final list of models: 7x Agfa 8mm, Super 8 1x Arri DS8 8x Bauer 8mm, Super 8 4x Beaulieu Super 8 1x Bilora 8mm 3x Bolex Super 8 Sound 6x Bolsey 8mm, 16mm 1x Canon Super 8 16x Eumig Super 8, Super 8 Sound 13x Fujica Single-8 14x Kodak Super 8 14x Leicina 8mm, Super 8 5x Logmar Super 8 26x Meopta 8mm, Super 8 3x Nikon 8mm, Super 8 22x Braun Nizo 8mm, Super 8, Super 8 Sound 10x Rollei, 8mm, Super 8, 16mm 3x Victor 8mm, 16mm 1x Zeiss Ikon 16mm 158 prototypes in total 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Sekanina Posted December 11, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted December 11, 2022 Thank you Jürgen, mine arrived a few days ago - it's beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 The Arri DS-8 ST sounds fascinating. A bit short (!) of w/a lenses though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 Thanks for the nice comments about my new book. Here are some examples: "An extremely well done book. Absolute highlight of this book is clearly the chapter about Meopta, which is also the most comprehensive chapter!" Martin Rowek, Projectionist Forum "A really great book. Impressive what so many companies have planned and then often not implemented. The chapter about Albrecht Graf Goertz, the creator of one of the most beautiful cars in the world (BMW 507), thrilled me. He also designed Fujicas! Also very impressive what Leica created for the showcase for 25 years." Helge L., Projectionist Forum "Thank you very much for this work, a wonderful book!" Film Mechanic, Projectionist Forum "What a treat! Am only on the Arri chapter, but already deeply immersed." F. Wachsmuth, Projectionist Forum "Am also completely enthralled! Thank you for the wonderful book and for the immense work that went into it." Mamingu, Projectionist Forum "Very many beautiful illustrations of the cameras. And what I also really like: the cheerful, smug tone in the headlines and articles. Anyway, it reads very easily – just also because of the casual remarks." Regular 8, Projectionist Forum "It's beautiful!" David Sekanina, Cinematography.com "Well done, excellent work!" Lee Mannering, 8mm Forum "Highly recommended!" Maurizio di Cintio, Super 8 Group, Facebook „Fabulous Monday! When I got home for dinner and saw that Jürgen Lossau's latest book had arrived: a clever treatise on 158!!! prototypes of Super 8 and 16mm cameras. A first look reveals amazing things, like Marcel Beaulieu's photography with a prototype for Double Super 8 or an Eumig with motorized but not automatic focus and stereo sound. Exceptional volume, highly recommended, a MUST for any Super-8 creative!“ Ignacio Benedeti Corzo, Super 8mm, Facebook “Anything put out by Jürgen Lossau is top notch!” Shane C. Collins, Super 8mm, Facebook “This is an excellent book. I finally see the developments of other designers. Very interesting. Now I'd like to know even more about the designer of the Auto-Carena.” Shigeo Mizukawa, camera designer for FujiFilm, Japan “All the other books of Jürgen Lossau are fabulous, I will get this one also.” Hyker Richard LaRiviere, Cine Camera Collectors, Facebook “An avid photo fair-goer, Lossau is also the author of many books and editor of a Super 8 magazine. It's great to see that film camera manufacturers have been working on new models until recently. Jürgen has documented quite a bit.” André Hagers, Vereniging Fotografica, Netherlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Uli Meyer Posted December 18, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2022 Hallo Jürgen, Meine Kopie wurde am 30.11 geschickt, ist aber nie angekommen. Die email ist "noreply", wie kann ich in Kontakt kommen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Lossau Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 Hallo Uli, die Post braucht manchmal etwas länger. Bitte noch etwas Geduld. Der Versand erfolgte per Brief, es gibt da kein Tracking. Kontakt ist: info ( at ) super8.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Kovats Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I received my copy. Wonderful overview. The Leitz 16mm prototype is mouth watering. Beautiful machining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Uli Meyer said: Hallo Jürgen, Meine Kopie wurde am 30.11 geschickt, ist aber nie angekommen. Die email ist "noreply", wie kann ich in Kontakt kommen? Aufgrund des Poststreiks ist die Briefpost momentan besonders in London derzeit sehr unregelmäßig (z.B brauchen meine Geschäftsbriefe mindestens 7-10 Tagen, um anzukommen). Kein Tracking ist ein bißchen Risiko. Edited December 18, 2022 by Mark Dunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Uli Meyer Posted December 18, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mark Dunn said: Aufgrund des Poststreiks ist die Briefpost momentan besonders in London derzeit sehr unregelmäßig (z.B brauchen meine Geschäftsbriefe mindestens 7-10 Tagen, um anzukommen). Kein Tracking ist ein bißchen Risiko. Wie du oben erwähnt hast, ist das Buch bei dir schon angekommen, deshalb meine Frage. Your German is very impressive, Mark! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Uli Meyer said: Your German is very impressive, Mark! Eindrucksvoll?- wie nett- aber Google is ein gutes Hilfsmittel. Leider haben wir seit 2019 wenig gelegenheit außer Online es zu sprechen. Edited December 19, 2022 by Mark Dunn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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