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A bigger question I should be asking is: why do we as cinematographers have to choose between Gold mount or V-mount batteries? It's like VHS and Betamax battling for 20+ years.
Is there some history on this I'm ignorant to?

Me personally, I feel like gold mount has a more secure locking mechanism so can't see why V-mount still exists.

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I think opposite I have to say.. gold mount is an Aaton Bauer mount.. and you will pretty much only find it in the US.. and Bauer now is also going over to V mount it seems.. the few times Ive used Gold Mount it seemed loose to me ,the battery had play in the mount.. and a heavy bulky design in the first place..  V mount is pretty much the world standard now.. I believe Sony came up with the design.. . I doubt gold mount will be around for much longer..

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I absolutely agree that Gold Mount is superior. And it absolutely doesn't matter much because V-mount has so dominantly become the standard.

It irks me, but that just seems to be the way of things.

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I'm also interested as to why this difference is so drastic. 

Shooting in Europe, all we have is gold mount unless we are shooting on a RED package. Everything else runs on AB's.
Here in the US the split is noticable in preference - for operators who love operating off the brick the default preference is AB, while others love and enjoy V-Lock, as long as they're not touching the brick. 

At the end of the day, you always have the option of getting a block block battery or a vest/belt setup so you won't have to worry about either ;D 

It's a matter of efficiency and weight - Gold-Mount is always more robust, a bit heavier and sturdier in design. They can take a beating. V is usually lighter weight, more space efficient, and often the batteries aren't as sturdy. 

Edited by Jaan Kristjan Utno

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Can't agree with you at all Jaan.. in Europe as a whole V mount is totally dominate .its only the US you find them these days...where in Europe are you..?   belt and vest battery ?  V mount batteries not sturdy..?? lighter weight .. Idx do a 198 WH battery its not light I assure you. 🙂 . V mount is only the mount .. it was invented by Sony.. there are many different battery manufacturers around the world.. iDX for example make very sturdy V mount batteries .. from small to huge.. 

Edited by Robin R Probyn

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I honestly think that power is power as long as it's good, clean power!  Here are my DIY 150 watt hour V-mounts that can push 15 amps no problem.  They are not pretty but heavy duty and super CHEAP!!  I also can just adapt to gold mount when needed (because we all love adapters in between poop!).  More and more v-mount these days it seems.

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Yes me too.. Ive only ever seen them in the US ..then I saw AB was  making V mount batts too... presumably they were forced into doing so by flagging sales for their own mount..  

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On 3/13/2019 at 4:58 AM, Phil Rhodes said:

I still have...

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Me too!!!! 🙂  Secure grip.  No wiggle.  I use them for Steadicam.

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My next battery purchase will be these for sure..  even got a built in torch !.. can charge via USB direct to AC with tiny unit.. or stack on 2 ch charger ..

 

 

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Having worked in a rental house on the east coast for a short time, I've never had any clients ask for V-Mount. To be fair, our camera packages come default with gold mount, but still, it is very rare for someone to ask to have v-mount instead. We have a whole drawer full of V-Mount to gold mount battery plates. It's super interesting for me to hear that v-mount is so popular.

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Outside the US.. V mount is pretty much 100% of owner/rental battery mounts .as are the camera,s of course ....Bauer was I guess forced into making their batteries Gold and V mount a few years back.. I presume to get any sales outside the US.. Im not saying the batteries are not of the highest standard, they are .. but V mount world wide is by far the most prevalent  .. and so is 25/24p and 50hz . 🙂 

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It’s all V mount here in Oz except for when US crews come over and demand all the cameras get swapped over to Gold mount.

Luckily our lenses are already marked in feet and we speak passable English so it’s only the road rules where they have to drive on the left side of the road and comply with km/hr speed limits that still confuses them.. 😉

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Sure, sometimes theres some play in gold mounts but nothing a little soft side cant fix.

I have also never seen a gold mount eject off of a camera from rough operating or inversion before, but I certainly have seen several v-mounts do it. 

I know this also has to do more with cell quality and configuration but you'll often see owner ops with 10-12 v-mounts to do a job that 8 Anton Bauer's would. There's a lot of v-mount brands out there so some are definitely better than others but I've been conditioned at this point to view v-mounts as lower quality batteries but that's just my prejudice. 

This is also a regional and production market thing, major rental houses in the U.S. will rarely stock v-mounts and if they do it won't be in great supply. Most of their cameras, monitors and AKS will be already setup for gold mount so it'll be a long while if ever before gold mount declines in the U.S. 

Edited by Evan Walsh

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Evan..I guess Bauer can do it in the US as its a big market and they have it pretty much sown up for many years .. but if you need to rent in any other country better check as most likely they won't have Gold mount..I guess Im programmed the other way.. anytime Ive used Gold mount they were was a lot of play.. but granted they would have been rentals..the whole mount was very big and clunky in design.. and the Bauer batts were were just ugly big square lumps of a battery.. 

Never had a V mount come off in ordinary use.. but you do have to check they have engaged .. in a really hurry they can seem to be on but not locked.. clever how AB have created this image of V mounts being lower quality .. !  I guess cheap dodgy knocks offs are all V mount as thats the world norm.. but manufactures like iDX / Sony / PAG are of the highest quality ..

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Hi

I'm originally from Europe but work and live now in the US and as far as I know, V-Lock is something we always used in Europe and the Anton Bauer Gold Mount is more a USA thing.

I must say I always had V-mount batteries and actually still have them, but the Gold Mount is much stiffer and rigid. To make it even easier Bebob just introduced a new mount, the B-Mount more like a combination of both systems.

 

 

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