Samuel Berger Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Still going! B) Any relation to Bill Irwin the mime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Gregory Irwin Posted January 30, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted January 30, 2019 Any relation to Bill Irwin the mime? Ive worked with Bill but no relation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is from the Wikipedia article on IMDB.com. Well age is certainly an issue for some people in this business. On January 1, 2017, the State of California implemented state bill AB-1687, a SAG-AFTRA-backed anti-ageism statute which requires "commercial online entertainment employment services" to honor requests by their subscribers for their ages and birthdays to be hidden.[51] On February 23, 2017, Judge Vince Girdhari Chhabria issued a stay on the bill pending a further trial, claiming that it possibly violated the First Amendment because it inhibited the public consumption of factual information. He also questioned the intent of the bill, as it was ostensibly meant to target IMDb.[52] By the beginning of 2017, IMDb had received more than 2,300 requests from individuals to remove their date of birth from the site. Included in this group were 10 Academy Award winners and another 71 nominated for Oscars, Emmys, or Golden Globes.[53] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Speziale Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 There's no correlation between age and ability. If you are working with the right people they are looking for ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon O'Brien Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Ageism occurs in the music biz too - in fact in the arts that is probably where it's most marked. I'd think in cinematography it would be far less of a problem. There's a widespread feeling in classical music performance for instance that you have to be really great by a young age to have a career at the highest level, but there have been exceptions to that rule. Just do what you do, if you can, and don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I remember a Hollywood agent telling me....my client isn't ready to play a mother yet. Her client was 47 years old, LOL :blink: R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) It's extraordinary that any US state needs a specific law for this. In the UK, and EU, it would be covered by data protection law as "sensitive information" for which consent would be needed. Probably age discrimination law as well. This is from the Wikipedia article on IMDB.com. Well age is certainly an issue for some people in this business. On January 1, 2017, the State of California implemented state bill AB-1687, a SAG-AFTRA-backed anti-ageism statute which requires "commercial online entertainment employment services" to honor requests by their subscribers for their ages and birthdays to be hidden Edited January 31, 2019 by Mark Dunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mark Kenfield Posted January 31, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted January 31, 2019 One of my favourite gaffers just recently retired. I was happy for him, but bummed out for myself. Seeing all that knowledge fall away from you is always a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is how it used to be in the UK film industry ! .. my good self on my knees.. Gramercy Park.. NY.. about 1986.. with a young Barry Ackroyd BSC .. and sound legend Mike Lax.. (yes all his bags would routinely get sent to LA !) and the trusty Aaton XT..). serving your time it was called.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Gregory Irwin Posted January 31, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is how it used to be in the UK film industry ! .. my good self on my knees.. Gramercy Park.. NY.. about 1986.. with a young Barry Ackroyd BSC .. and sound legend Mike Lax.. (yes all his bags would routinely get sent to LA !) and the trusty Aaton XT..). serving your time it was called.. Awesome! I love the white barney on the camera. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is how it used to be in the UK film industry ! .. my good self on my knees.. Gramercy Park.. NY.. about 1986.. with a young Barry Ackroyd BSC .. and sound legend Mike Lax.. (yes all his bags would routinely get sent to LA !) and the trusty Aaton XT..). serving your time it was called.. Is this back when the young guys on set dressed like they were there to actually work? Sad to have missed those times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Here's how much I care about ageism, I'll be 51 on Feb 6th. Now what happens? R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Here's how much I care about ageism, I'll be 51 on Feb 6th. Now what happens? R, AARP will knock at your door a little harder this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Considering the success my age has brought Macks, I doubt I'll be home. I'll be out on my boat, or off on a cruise. The twenty and thirty some-things by contrast will taking transit to their dead end jobs. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Considering the success my age has brought Macks, I doubt I'll be home. I'll be out on my boat, or off on a cruise. The twenty and thirty some-things by contrast will taking transit to their dead end jobs. R, I try to motivate them to strive for more but I'm fighting against video games and social media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I try to motivate them to strive for more but I'm fighting against video games and social media. Good luck with that, this is not a group that is highly motivated to work. They are the entitled generation. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Is this back when the young guys on set dressed like they were there to actually work? Sad to have missed those times I think you'll find Im attired to the latest fashions of the day !.. :) .. kneeling in the dirt but looking at the stars sir.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Awesome! I love the white barney on the camera. G There was an old granny in the UK who used to make them by hand to order..and all sorts of padded covers for film gear.. seems she made a mint out of it.. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Hart Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Age becomes an issue when there are many kid eagers out there prepared to provide their brand new camera and work for monkey-tucker. Good luck to them with their energy and their ambition. In the meantime once a succession of them have worn themselves and their cameras out subsidising an exploitative industry and a production entity eventually gets burned by a reshoot, us wrinklies will have gone on the dole queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) Here's how much I care about ageism, I'll be 51 on Feb 6th. Now what happens? R, You get a discount on your insurance. Oh, hang on a minute, occupation: film director, maybe not..... Edited February 6, 2019 by Mark Dunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Gregory Irwin Posted February 6, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted February 6, 2019 Here's how much I care about ageism, I'll be 51 on Feb 6th. Now what happens? R,[/quote Happy birthday Richard! Its also my granddaughters 5th today as well! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Santucci Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Age becomes an issue when there are many kid eagers out there prepared to provide their brand new camera and work for monkey-tucker. Good luck to them with their energy and their ambition. In the meantime once a succession of them have worn themselves and their cameras out subsidising an exploitative industry and a production entity eventually gets burned by a reshoot, us wrinklies will have gone on the dole queue. I once worked on a multi camera commercial project and during a prepro meeting, the much younger B camera operator (also providing a bunch of gear and a few cameras) actually said "I don't care about the money." That kind of thing is very alluring to producers working in markets where acceptable quality tends to be middle of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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