Chris Burke Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 What are peoples opinion of the new HBO series? Saw episode 1 and loved it. This past weekend I rewatched the original. It has it's moments, but...... the new one is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Crichton's Westworld was always like a trial run for his later Jurassic Park, but I liked the idea. Thought the HBO version looks great and has a lot of promise, but I have no clue how they plan to develop it over multiple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 Let's see how the first 10 episodes do. I think they have lots of material to work with. It is a very solid idea. Much like Battle Star Galactica, it expores what it is to be human. Looks great. In Crichton's film Yule Brinners gazes and silence are very compelling. I think his role alone carried that movie. HBO's cast is stellar. Let's see what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Delpech Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) The pilot is great, plenty of possibilities. Looks gorgeous too, shot on film entirely, huge production values, there's an online exclusive in this month's AC issue, it says David Mullen also did some additional photography on it. Â Jonathan Nolan says they have a plan for 5 seasons approximately. Edited October 7, 2016 by Manu Delpech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted October 7, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 7, 2016 I love the locations, most of which are here in L.A. It's also nice to see Jonathan following his brother and shooting the show on 35mm. Â So far, I'm not too impressed with the story. I thought the first episode seemed a little bit weak. They spent too much time trying to tell you everything and not enough time letting the audience explore with the characters. It would have been a lot better had the first episode not explained everything and wrapped it up in a tight bow. Â Other then that, it was shot well and plenty entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted October 8, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 8, 2016 So far, I'm not too impressed with the story. I thought the first episode seemed a little bit weak. They spent too much time trying to tell you everything and not enough time letting the audience explore with the characters. It would have been a lot better had the first episode not explained everything and wrapped it up in a tight bow. Â I'd have to agree but I'll give it some time to develop. I too watched Michael Crichton's 1973 film and I thought it could have been far better. Conceptually, I'm sure the show will be going more in the direction of Blade Runner - self-awareness, existence, etc. How effective it will be is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manu Delpech Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Second episode is fantastic. Available early on HBO, HBOGo, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 In the first film. I loved the close up shots of the "hovercraft" pilot wearing aviator glasses. The second episode was very good. Lots to think on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Ayer Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 http://www.theasc.com/ac_magazine/October2016/Westworld/page1.php  Here's the article on Westworld from American Cinematographer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) The use of the fly was a little too obvious.... From ep. 1, you just know that the decommissioned host that woke himself up and later zipped himself back in the body bag will play a pivotal role when things turn bad. Edited October 10, 2016 by JD Hartman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Trajkovski Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I thought the show is digital, but the pix in AC show otherwise.My assumption had nothing to do with observation, just "logic" - most shows now are digital. Â ... Â I am about to watch the 1973 film. I hope it would not be a big spoiler for the upcoming episodes.... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 no it won't. Gotta love Yule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted October 12, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 12, 2016 Second Episode started the season plot, which is nice to see. Â After reading the AC article, the show gets more credit production wise. A lot of what I think is a visual effect, is actually clever lighting techniques that look strange, but are done in camera. There is still a lot of compositing work in the show, but it's only when necessary. Â Can't wait for next weeks show! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 With the third episode it only gets better. In respect to the first film I have a question. The Gunslinger / Android infrared vision, how would that have been achieved in the early 1970s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Trying to remember as not seen the film since it's first release . It would have been an optical effect i.e done with an optical printer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted October 18, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'd have to see a frame to make a guess. Were there electronic infrared video cameras back then? If so, then they could have just rephotographed the video monitor. Or it could have been faked. Of course there was infrared film back then but not the type that sees people through walls, turns them into glowing heat shapes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH Martin Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Very primitive computing effects combined with optical composting. http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/how-michael-crichtons-westworld-pioneered-modern-special-effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 I wondered if was anything other than shooting it off of a screen. Pretty cool to see an early example of scanning and film output. Â Â I would post a photo, but can't figure out how. I have posted pictures before, but can't remember. It is not that easy on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg MacPherson Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Chris, I recently gave someone else a short description of the upload procedure here... http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=72874 Â Terrible quick finger spelling by me, but it might give you the right nudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Â Â et voila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted October 19, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks for that article, Kevin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Ayer Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 With the third episode it only gets better. In respect to the first film I have a question. The Gunslinger / Android infrared vision, how would that have been achieved in the early 1970s? Â That was the first use of CGI in film too, "fun fact" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Schilling Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I love this show, only 4 episodes in, but knew there was no way it wasn't film... it looks amazing!!! When I looked it up on IMDB, it has EXR 50D listed? Good choice, but means Kodak must have made a special run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny N Suleimanagich Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The EXR was an error that was printed and published in many places erroneously. Everything was done on Vision 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 What are peoples thoughts on the series so far? With the final episode tonight, how do people feel since we started this thread? My expectations were exceeded. Lots of stuff going on with this show on many levels. It smacks of several other sci-fi series including a little of the Prisoner. (the control room) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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