huge bizzare lens on A Clockwork Orange

[panagiotis agapitou]

what lens is that ??

 

 

 

[David Mullen ASC]

It’s not the lens that is big, it’s the sound-dampening blimp housing around it (and the camera) because it is a wide-angle lens.

[Mark Dunn]

It's one of these

http://owyheesound.com/arriflex-120s-blimp.html

but with an extension for a w/a lens (Kinoptik 9.8?) instead of the square one on that site.

Kubrick loved his 2Cs so he decided not to chuck one out of the window for the Alex de Large POV shot. He used a Newman-Sinclair clockwork for that and just kept doing it until it stopped working.

Edited September 24, 2018 by Mark Dunn

[Tyler Purcell]

On a side note... that pix has a lot of moving parts. Stanley is on a wheelchair being pushed along with the dolly. Very interesting to think about because normally wouldn't he just ride the dolly? huh.

[Mark Dunn]

On a side note... that pix has a lot of moving parts. Stanley is on a wheelchair being pushed along with the dolly. Very interesting to think about because normally wouldn't he just ride the dolly? huh.

I don't know if that's a ride-on type dolly, but anyway, Kubrick devised the wheelchair dolly where I believe the camera was usually hand-held.

I think he just happens to be sitting in it in this photograph. Garrett Brown rode in it on The Shining https://www.tested.com/art/movies/457145-shining-and-steadicam/

Edited September 24, 2018 by Mark Dunn

[David Mullen ASC]

Usually the operator would be better off riding on the dolly if they have to use wheels, especially in a low-angle position (it's hard to walk along the dolly as it moves but stooped low enough to operate geared head wheels when the camera is that low.). So working from the wheelchair was an interesting solution. Many operators would switch to a fluid head in that situation if they had to walk with the dolly but the camera was mounted that low. Remember that this is a reflex camera so the operator had to also keep their eye pressed against the viewfinder cup. These days even if shooting film, an operator might switch to an onboard monitor from a tap if it was too difficult to keep their eyes aligned with the viewfinder while the camera moved and some complex operating was involved.

[Tyler Purcell]

Yep, good point David. Now is the dolly an early panther? It appears to be a pedestal, but I don't recognize it at all.

[Frank Wylie]

It's one of these

http://owyheesound.com/arriflex-120s-blimp.html

but with an extension for a w/a lens (Kinoptik 9.8?) instead of the square one on that site.

Kubrick loved his 2Cs so he decided not to chuck one out of the window for the Alex de Large POV shot. He used a Newman-Sinclair clockwork for that and just kept doing it until it stopped working.

 

Dammit! He could have busted an Eyemo instead of Newman-Sinclair!

[Frank Wylie]

Yep, good point David. Now is the dolly an early panther? It appears to be a pedestal, but I don't recognize it at all.

 

Appears to be an Elemack.

[Dom Jaeger]

Dammit! He could have busted an Eyemo instead of Newman-Sinclair!

 

Actually the camera survived, and even performed a flawless steady test afterwards. The sixth drop off the roof got the right POV by landing lens first, which was the end of the lens, but not the camera. Kubrick was impressed enough to declare the Newman Sinclair the most indestructible camera ever made.

 

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0070.html

[Brian Drysdale]

 

Appears to be an Elemack.

 

Yes, for more: http://www.elemack.com/

[Robin R Probyn]

Yes elemack.. weighted 100 tons.. and had two small round seats..height adjusted by wobbly risers .. for op and focus puller.. very easy to fall off..

[Brian Drysdale]

Some of the cameras weighted 50 tons.

[dan kessler]

must've been murder for dolly grips

[Robin R Probyn]

They would counter balance the weight with their wallets .. and a rolled up copy of the Sun..

[panagiotis agapitou]

Is this the ARRI 12mm 2.1 ?? (made by the zeiss standard prime 16mm)

 

 

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[Brian Drysdale]

I doubt it, since Clockwork Orange was made around 1970/71

 

The Kinoptic 9.8mm was one of his favoured lenses: https://kitsplit.com/rent/kinoptik-9-8mm-t2-3-pl-mount-wide-angle-s35-kubrick-lens-new-york-ny

[Brian Drysdale]

Joe Dunton talks about the lenses that Kubrick used: https://indiefilmhustle.com/stanley-kubrick-lenses/

 

The 18mm Cooke would seem a likely candidate for the above lens on the Arri IIc

[panagiotis agapitou]

I think you are right .. it's more likely a cooke 18mm !!

 

But i have read that on Clockwork Orange used a lot of 12mm lens .. any thoughts about what kind of 12mm was that ??

 

Btw the ARRI 12MM i posted .. when was released ??

 

Thanks again !!

[Brian Drysdale]

I'm unaware of a 12mm lenses for the Arri 35 IIC in that period (only ones for 16mm), The earlier Arri mounts would've limited the options, since the PL mount came out in 1980.

[Brian Drysdale]

One of the replies in this thread lists possible 35 IIC lenses http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=46580

[panagiotis agapitou]

May he used a still converted lens ..

[Mark Dunn]

May he used a still converted lens ..

You've already been told that what's in your photograph is a blimp window, not a lens.

Do you mean a converted stills lens? He had a wide-angle converter made for the f0.7 lens for "Barry Lyndon", but not for ACO, no.

Edited October 13, 2018 by Mark Dunn

[Brian Drysdale]

I've never read of Kubrick using a 12mm lens, the 9,8mm lens is imentioned in quite a few articles..

 

I suspect a 1970 12mm stills lens would be pretty slow, the Nikon 13mm is f/5.6 and came out in 1976.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Brian Drysdale

[panagiotis agapitou]

You've already been told that what's in your photograph is a blimp window, not a lens.

Do you mean a converted stills lens? He had a wide-angle converter made for the f0.7 lens for "Barry Lyndon", but not for ACO, no.

 

We are not talking anymore for the photograph .. check last posts

 

 

I've never read of Kubrick using a 12mm lens, the 9,8mm lens is imentioned in quite a few articles..

 

I suspect a 1970 12mm stills lens would be pretty slow, the Nikon 13mm is f/5.6 and came out in 1976.

 

i saw it here : https://indiefilmhustle.com/laowa-12mm-venus-optics/

 

and here : https://www.reddit.com/r/cinematography/comments/30ulmj/kubricks_lenses_a_complete_guide_to_the_lenses/cpwoi85/