Matt Stevens Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 Dario Argento shot some great films 2 perf from that era. DEEP RED is a personal favorite.
Chris Burke Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Bird with the Crystal Plumage Edited January 28, 2014 by Chris Burke
Nicholas Kovats Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Friedemann, I know where you are going with this! Excellent suggestion. Are tehre actually 35mm 2-perf cameras around too? I don't know the 35mm market at all, but could imagine 2-perf as a pretty nice ultrawide format...
Joerg Polzfusz Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Are tehre actually 35mm 2-perf cameras around too? I don't know the 35mm market at all, but could imagine 2-perf as a pretty nice ultrawide format... Native 2perf: http://www.aaton.com/products/film/penelope/ Converted to 2perf: http://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com/digital-cinematography/news/panavision-proposes-2-perf-film-system-indie-filmmaking/9084 http://www.clairmont.com/hot_new/2perf_35mm_cameras.html
Gabriele Turchi Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 can any modern film scanner deal with 2 perf? thanks g
Justin Donoghue Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Dario Argento shot some great films 2 perf from that era. DEEP RED is a personal favorite. Also THX 1138, Argo, Shame, Hunger, Sergio Leone movies; all 2 perf Techniscope. That's just off the top of my head.
Doug Palmer Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I don't think there'd be a market, there's so much cheap used super 16 gear available and those cameras have a life of over 20 years, if not longer. How about Ultra-16 ? I don't think any have been manufactured specially ? Almost the same size at 1.85:1, plus advantages of more lenses, and simpler option to use R.16 if desired.
Brian Drysdale Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 You can modify the gate of a regular 16mm camera for Ultra 16, which is a lot less than the cost of a brand new camera. There are a lot of these cameras around and possibly the only thing wrong with some is they just need new/refurbished electronics. 1
Erkan Umut Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) You can modify the gate of a regular 16mm camera for Ultra 16, which is a lot less than the cost of a brand new camera. There are a lot of these cameras around and possibly the only thing wrong with some is they just need new/refurbished electronics. Exactly Brian, so correct! Guys, please don't understand me wrong, but will we want to go back to the end 1800's and the beginning to 1900's? More sophisticated cameras do need a group of engineers, technicians, etc., as well as more complex manufacturing facilities. Don't be dreaming so much! Even you want to copy them! History tells everything... Edited January 29, 2014 by Erkan Umut
Erkan Umut Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 By the way, some of us warned about this before: Our subject and purpose of this post are for a new-born Super 8 camera. Why do we jump to other formats and cameras? :D ;)
Site Sponsor Perry Paolantonio Posted January 29, 2014 Site Sponsor Posted January 29, 2014 can any modern film scanner deal with 2 perf? thanks g Yes, several have 2-perf capability: Lasergraphics Director Northlight Arriscan Scanity GoldenEye I'm sure there are others, but these are just off the top of my head. Not sure about the 35mm version of the Lasergraphics ScanStation - ours is 8/16 only, but I can ask. It'd be limited to 2k though. that said, for 2-perf that might not be bad for a lot of use cases. -perry
Brian Drysdale Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 It might be worthwhile if people started a new thread on 2 perf 35mm cameras rather than getting involved in the subject here. You'll probably get a broader range of answers in the 35mm section.
Lasse Roedtnes Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 Hi Guys, We launched our webpage recently (still in alpha stage though) - content is changing day-by-day and we are soon adding some test footage as well - we will keep a blog going on our webpage to keep everyone updated as well as keep commenting here on this mighty fine forum :) www.logmar.dk Thanks Tommy & Lasse 4
Nicholas Kovats Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Congratulations, Tommy & Lasse! That is a powerful statement from your "About us" page. Digital Illumanti take note, i.e. "Why bother with film when XYZ company is going digital? We do not believe in digital footage, it's as simple as that. Our passion is not for "plastic like" colours and high definition marketing jargon over which sensor chip has the most amount of pixels (and least amount of bad ones), so you won’t see us developing a camera for this market, also the digital film camera market is already dominated by big players such as Panasonic, Black Magic and Arriflex so we wouldn't be able to "pack a punch" especially being number #400 vendor of a camera in this space We find it much more interesting playing in a niche market space where evolution has stood still for many years, a space where we can actually provide new features not seen before and gain momentum by the “news factor” of someone doing something that seems completely odd. It is our promise to you that we will never compromise on quality and hence our cameras are all build and designed locally here in Denmark." 1
Chris Burke Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Lasse, have you talked with Kodak about Logmar?
Lasse Roedtnes Posted February 12, 2014 Author Posted February 12, 2014 Hi Chris, we've not been in contact with Kodak. with the exception of trying to get in contact with a member of their technical staff to explain tolerances on their film perforations and other similar technical details etc. - however we never found an appropriate contact. Do you have particular questions in mind? best regards Lasse
Anthony Schilling Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Hi Chris, we've not been in contact with Kodak. with the exception of trying to get in contact with a member of their technical staff to explain tolerances on their film perforations and other similar technical details etc. - however we never found an appropriate contact. Do you have particular questions in mind? best regards Lasse I mentioned it to the rep the last time i ordered S8 film. She said they were already aware of it and they were all pretty excited about the idea. It be great if they ended up doing some PR. The camera promotes the product and the Kodak brand. 1
Joerg Polzfusz Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Of course the reps are "aware and exited". They're paid to pretend anything the customer wants to hear. But there's a very high chance that they don't even know how a movie camera is linked to any Kodak product... ... Next time talk with her about Sony's new super8-projector. I bet that she's also aware and excited...
Chris Burke Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I only asked because of what Anthony has said. I am sure they have heard of it now. News spreads quite rapidly these days and it is much harder to believe that they did not. They often do profiles of super 8 projects that use their stocks, so a new camera, why not? You both stand to gain. Can't wait to see some footage. 2
Lasse Roedtnes Posted February 24, 2014 Author Posted February 24, 2014 Hi Guys, We just released some footage show with our camera here: http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=62603 Let's close this discussion thread since it's getting extremely long with almost 600 posts spanning half a year. Best regards Lasse
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